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Working staffs

Discussion in 'SBT Pictures' started by Ares, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. cher_bear

    cher_bear Good Dog

    Roughtrade,you have some very atheletic lookin dogs,i like the second dog a lot.
     
  2. dane

    dane Puppy

    Yankeestaff kennels owned by Nancy Malec are in the USA & they outcrossed to some of the working blood from the UK many year ago. Them outcrosses sure worked in changing the type for the better. Im sure it helped on the health side too. Take a look at them & im sure most will agree they are a pixture of health. Google the name & im sure you will find several.
     
  3. 12 gauge

    12 gauge Puppy

    this is my boy blake

    he's a combo of some show staffords and athletic type staffords (18 inch tall 38-40 lbs)
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  4. steve0

    steve0 Puppy

    working or irish staffs- call them what you will, they are the truest representation of what staffs were before the show folk messed them up. they are great examples in your pics and that is how they should look. it is also how they looked in the Uk and ireland before they were took down the shorter and thicker route that the english bulldog has had so much success with in terms of looks and health :-D (sarcasm i'm afraid folks).

    any of those dogs would be classed as a pocket pit in the states- judging from the examples I've seen oin here anyway. it just goes to show how little the real bull terriers have changed in the last century or so.

    keep up the good work fella's.

    also just a hypothetical question- what is the dog best pound for pound, a working staff or an apbt?? as those staffs look similar in size to the pocket pits it shouldn't be a difficult question for you real dog people to hypothesize :-)
     
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  5. 12 gauge

    12 gauge Puppy

    I do not condone dog fighting at all as there no honor in it (just my personal opinion) as there are far more difficult legal venues that would test your dog harder mentally and physically e.g; hunting, etc... we all know American pitbull as the ultimate canine, but there have been some successful staffords rolled against pits in the past (ch. scarecrow, ch. jim, dock's gr ch duke, etc..
    I think it all depends on the breeding, these staffords most breeders are breeding can't even get out the couch, let alone any sport or even riding along side your bicycle.
     
  6. steve0

    steve0 Puppy

    i dont condone fighting either. also i actually believe that apbts and working/irish staffs all all one in the same. the only difference is size was added to some strains of apbt early in the century. and my question was hypothetical anyway. but glad you agree with me on what the show monkeys have done to a once great type of bull terrier :-)
     
  7. 12 gauge

    12 gauge Puppy

    the fatter and chunkier the more benjamins $$$ you can sell a pup for, just like breeders are doing with E. bulldogs, which in my opinion is a kind like a surprise, you dont know what disease the dog is gonna get but for sure you getting something
     
  8. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    :goodposting:
     
  9. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    My thoughts exactly. If you were to compare the SBT's from 100-150 years ago to the modern game-bred APBT's of today you would not see any differences. That's because the game bred APBT's and the old SBT's were the same dog. Much to the chagrin of the modern show-bred SBT's that are, as we speak, trying to breed SBT's into the next Boston Terriers. Remember, the Boston Terrier started out as a fighting dog too.
     
  10. steve0

    steve0 Puppy

    :D glad ya'all are in the loop. in ireland they use them for clearing vermin like foxes and badgers. not sure i agree that badgers are vermin myself but I went on some long hunting in my teen years :o:o
     
  11. steve0

    steve0 Puppy

    oh and billbklyn- this why i find the name apbt funny. when were the dogs given the green card?? :-D oh and my avatar is my carnie- she's 3/4 irish staff and 1/4 mystery.............................
     
  12. 12 gauge

    12 gauge Puppy

    Some people choose to believe in fairytales about staffords. Some would swear they've always been short and stocky, this tells me two things: they either choose to be ignorant for their own benefit as the show dogs with Ch's in their peds would sell for more, or they're just clueless about this breed history.

    It's ok for the showring to have Ch staffords 43-46 lbs as long as they're at 16 inch or under :confused:.
     
  13. steve0

    steve0 Puppy

    its like body builders vs strongmen. one looks strong and athletic- and the other one is.............
     
  14. dane

    dane Puppy

    You are so wrong in saying the modern stafford is very fast caching up with the bulldog. In truth the staffords of today are a shadow of the dogs from 20/30 yr ago. Even back then,it would be wrong to compare the 2 breeds. Yes,you can mention some staffords that did compete but they were few & far between & they never met the major dogs of their weight. There is still some good staffords around,from what im told,but thats all they are................good staffords.
    Another thing to correct is Ch Scarecrow is in fact Ch Duke. A stafford of pure kc breeding who died long ago.
     
  15. Bullbaiter

    Bullbaiter Puppy

    Great looking staffs! The first dog posted looks incredible to me, thats what i think of when i think of a proper staffordshire. Is he from Dublin Red lines? What are his stats> height, weight, drive? Have you ever bred him?
     
  16. Beth L

    Beth L Little Dog

    I love to see a fit dog...
    I keep my girlie pretty fit. I did put a few pounds on her for showing but now that she is finished I took it back off. I HATE the fat rolly polly show dogs you usually see in the ring.
    I have been told before I need to put weight on my dogs when at the shows. I think I had to much rib showing for them.

    Wish I had some GOOD pix of her. she is not stripped down fit like some shown though.
    We do agility, weight pulls and some obed.
    I do not have any other venues in my area.

    I need to get some new pix. These are from when I was showing her.
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    there is a club in California, it is a conformation club but they do believe in fit and agile not fat and fragile dogs. They do not have FAT show dogs but not striped down either. Kinda more like my girlie.
    So not ALL of the show dogs are FAT lol...

    if you are interested in finding out more about the club go to.
    http://www.ncsbtc.com/
    I am not posting this for your opinion so please do not comment on the club unless it is good LOL... Remember it is a conf. club not a working club.
     
  17. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    I just love your girl Beth. :aww:
     
  18. Bullbaiter

    Bullbaiter Puppy

    Really nice staff beth...

    Roughtrade where are you?
     
  19. cic

    cic Puppy

    Beautiful pics folks. Ares those dogs in your pics are GORGEOUS. Truly incredible animals.
     

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