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Why do people get mad about designer dogs?

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Alan, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. Alan

    Alan Banned

    I was thinking about how everyone gets upset about designer dogs. Im not defending them because I dont have one. However, I had a thought. Isnt every breed a designer dog. All of them started somehow for some reason. Even dogs already designed are often more clearly designed. As in maybe a certain bloodline of a breed is known to be outstanding but has one small weakness so they try to correct it with another bloodline. Isnt that designing?

    Maybe designer dogs have health problems but I wonder how many breeds did have problems until they eventually fixed them through selective breeding.

    Maybe people dont like designer dogs because of the pet population but what difference does it make what kind of dog is being bred when they all create the same over population problem?
  2. jennay2

    jennay2 Banned

    I don't think ever in the history of man, did 200 new breeds pop up in the course of four-five years. All new breeds were bred with a purpose, an IMHO, the Labradoodle seems to be the only one with a true use: Assistance dogs that don't shed.

    But those malti-poos, yorkie-poos, bisch-poos, there is NO REASON for them to be created for other then a fad. Malteses's, yorkies, bischons, and poodles don't shed. So all they want is a fluff ball.

    As for the other poodle mixes....ugh.....
  3. screamin'eagle

    screamin'eagle Good Dog

    One thing that I hate about designer has more to do with registries. I've seen people crossing an AKC poodle and an AKC cocker spaniel to create a cockapoo. Now the AKC won't register this dog, but the CKC...different story. I've even seen an ad on hoobly once that stated the had a CKC reg'd Sharpei/APBT cross. How the hell is that registered? They actually had the dog reg'd as a APBT! It's a money thing...and the even went as far to say in the ad that if the dog was bred they could register the pups with the CKC as either APBT or Sharpei! Are you kidding.
  4. screamin'eagle

    screamin'eagle Good Dog

    I almost forgot...I hate the impact of the cute, small dogs in the puppy mill industry. Puppy mills have exploded breeding unsound dogs in puppy mill conditions, and designer dog fanciers not only support this, but they make it easier for these puppy mill @ssholes to expoit dogs and the public!
  5. Alan

    Alan Banned

    I learned something. That does suck!
  6. PamB

    PamB Puppy

    What's upsetting to me about "designer" dogs is that our local pet store constantly is selling everything imaginable for $400.00! :( Mostly chihuahua/doxie, also mixed with schnauzer, poodle, and whatever else they can be "creative" enough to dream up. Then, after the puppy stage is over these dogs often end up in our local shelter. Now, no one knows what they are and really, they are just a mixed breed!
  7. tat2stuff

    tat2stuff Good Dog

    bottom line, it's all for money, create a new fad to push sales. People are paying $1,000 and up for mutts basically. there is such an overpopulation of dogs in this country and this only adds to the pile. It's just disgusting IMO
  8. Debbie

    Debbie Good Dog

    I agree.

    Mixing these breeds for monetary and cosmetic purposes only dilutes the original purpose for the breeds.

    And at this point there is no way to say that any dog is hyperallergenic or anything else....breeds have been around for hundreds of years.
    These dogs are just test subjects...they(the breeders) have no idea what they're going to come out like...they have no idea what bad/good health traits, personality traits these dogs are going to possess, it's just a crap shoot. In the name of the almighty buck. :mad:
  9. Hillbilly

    Hillbilly Puppy

  10. Debbie

    Debbie Good Dog

  11. Hillbilly

    Hillbilly Puppy

  12. Pitgrrrl

    Pitgrrrl Little Dog

  13. tat2stuff

    tat2stuff Good Dog

  14. Debbie

    Debbie Good Dog

    Ultimate Doggie Vitamins...wonder if I should get some of those for my Jacks ?? :rolleyes: :lol:
  15. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    Ok my problem is not the dogs it is ppl peddling them for outragous amount of money. I have had clients come into work that paid $1500 for a shih-poo. Another Vet Tech has a 15yr old Shih-poo and got her for free when she was a pup because it was a mutt.
  16. Hillbilly

    Hillbilly Puppy

    :Dthats called retail sales,doesnt matter what product your pushin:D

    seriously though obviously its a trend, just like every other trend it will fade away ........
  17. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    But you can go to your local shelter and find the same things for a small adoption fee. After the trend we will have all these dogs out there in the shelters.
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2007
  18. Rai_77

    Rai_77 Good Dog

    Exactly that. There *is* an overpop issue and every new puppy contributes to it. And the designer breeds are creating *more* demand, which means *more* deaths.

    And now you have people that have "purebred" malti-poos (yes, I've heard someone say it) that are oh so cute and there is a whole new class of BYB that insists they aren't breeders and aren't contributing to millions of deaths each year because 'I only breed for friends and family because Froo-froo is so sweet and everyone wanted one'.

    Yes, all breeds started out as designers, in a sense, but those were to make a new and 'better' breed of dog. Those were breeding PROGRAMS. Dogs were culled, testing was done, there were certain goals that the breeders had in mind. This was not some lady that just didn't get her dogs fixed so she could make some quick cash on her lunch hour.

    What is the goal with a shih-doodle? To sell a pup for $3500 to people too uneducated to realize that they are buying a mutt!

    Show me a legit breeder, who is doing something, anything, to prove their dogs, show me that they are actually attempting to create a new breed for a purpose (even it's to be a great lap dog), show me that they are so serious about their new breed that the AKC will let them in at some pont, and I'll bet they aren't breeding chi-tzu-doodles.
  19. tat2stuff

    tat2stuff Good Dog

    good post Rai
  20. screamin'eagle

    screamin'eagle Good Dog

    Exactly what I was talking about...a triumverate of irresponsibility. The breeder (puppy mills, etc...money seeker) the registry that will allow for mix breed dogs to be registered as either contributing breed (the CKC...money seeker) and the people supporting the other two.

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