White dog turning orange.

[crazybully]

Hey guys, I need a bit of help, Tobi is my 9 month old guy from about a month or maybe a little more ago i started seeing some orange splotches on this skin, and discoloring the fur around it. so almost a burnt red color. We took him to the vet (apts were full for about a week out) and they took a skin/affected area hair sample and said they were going to grow it for 10-14 days to rule out yeast etc... he has had a yeasty paw problem that we have been treating with miconizole shampoo on his feet and a cleaner as well, she told us just for good measure keep it up etc etc, so we have. today we went on our usual 3 mile walk we came home and it was nice and warm about 80degrees so i put out his kiddy pool and was going to let him see if he would warm up to the water(still isn't sure about that wet stuff) he did and i wet him down a bit as well to cool him down, he ran around for a few seconds came backa nd rolled in the grass and on the driveway as if itching his back i didn't think anything of it, its normal for him to roll on his back moaning and groaning.

We came in and he was starting to dry off, and he was turning orange... I started to freak out, i called the vet they haven't returned my call yet :mad: i bathed him, no change he is still orange any ideas? When this first started you coul only see the spots a tiny bit and really not even from behind him and a little moreso when he was wet but now... :no2:

I increased the saturation in the photo to really bring it out so you can see it. but its not that bad but it is noticeable and a cause for concern to me. and is really only noticeable when he is damp/wet.

He doesn't act lethargic or anything, the affected area isn't sensitive as well as far as i can tell he's not scratching or biting at it or anything...

 

[BULLTLOTT]

This happened to my white as well. This to me looks like it could be food allergies. Her fur will actually stain where her skin is irritated. She began to break out around 8 months of age. It was a shock! Now she has to be on a terribly strict diet. It's hard, but I can at least control her breakouts.
Mine also has yeasty paws that are controlled by wipes, but have never been perfect.

To me this is what it looks like, again, I could be wrong as white bullys can have a VAST range of skin problems, I'm just taking a shot and saying food allergies.
I hope your baby's skin problems are easily solvable!

When my bully's fur is wet during a breakout it can look AWFUL. She usually breaks out on her bottom or head. Sometimes her back legs as well. Much much more noticeable when the fur is wet.

EDIT: I re-read and noticed you said he rolled in grass. Could be something in the grass or the grass itself. Restrict him from it and see if it improves.

 

[crazybully]

mmk, i'm a little less freaked out hoping that its something that will go away... it could be a treat i'm going to limit all treats and go back to square one, i can't imagine it would be a diet allergy as he's raw fed... unless somehow he would be allergic to chicken? but if that was the case wouldn't he have chronic loose stool?

 

[BULLTLOTT]

From my experience not always! Mine is allergic to pork and she digests it just fine. Just her skin will turn orange/dark red on around her bottom.

Her stools look completely normal, I guess sometimes the skin gets the worst of it.

You can always get him tested at the vet to see what he is directly allergic to, but I've heard it's terribly expensive.

 

[crazybully]

Ya... i've thought about getting it tested to see what he is allergic to but dropping thousands on something that isn't even for sure isn't my idea of a good time... then again feeding a kibble diet isn't going to happen either... does she itch at all when she breaks out? he doesn't seem to be itchy at all...

 

[BULLTLOTT]

She just licks her paws. Other than that she's perfectly happy with her red bottom! It's so hard for me to look at though. :lol:
I want to itch just looking.

If I were you I would just drop the treats. Try just chicken for a couple days and see if it gets worse. If so, stop the chicken and try beef! And so on. Then you can start combining the ingredients he doesn't react to.

 

[crazybully]

ya... but he hasn't been introduced to beef yet, and he won't get the bone nutrition he would need if i stopped the chicken as been bone is often too dense and can cause problems, i've been thinking of pork bone but ribs are 3-5$ per pound, i'll go with chicken for now though back to basics and see how it works, no bullysicks, no treats etc. thanks

 

[BULLTLOTT]

Oh! Eggshells are full of calcium and are great for a bone substitute if needed! Happy feeding!

 

[Bullful]

If your dog is getting wet all the time he may be developing a staph infection. Keep him dry and see if the red areas develop little scabs. You may have to do a round of antibiotics to clear it up, not less than two weeks worth.

Give him a good bath to start with and then a good rinse using a 50/50 mixture of water and distilled white vinegar. Allow it to air dry on his coat.
Good luck, we are in the begining of allergy season over here.
Had my first green eye goober today.

 

[crazybully]

Okay good advice thank you guys

I actually took him to the vet, we have a plan so it doesn't cost anything to have him seen and i get a little panicky about him... he's like the child i never had. Anyways, she is having us stop all of our medicated stuffs, shampoo, and ear cleaner with the same meds in it which was for in between. she wants to see if going back to basics will clear up the discoloration, she went through is coat with a magnifying glass for about 25 minutes... (a long ass time to hold him still) and she said "his skin is absolutely flawless" and she had no idea what could have possibly made his coat change so suddenly. I am going to try the Vinegar thing... is there a brand or do i need to visit a holistic store and try to find unpasteurized etcetc?

Thanks for your help guys, i was freaking out

 

[BULLTLOTT]

Phew! I'm glad it's not his skin!
Allergies can be so frustrating.

 

[crazybully]

Me too Bulltlott, i was not looking forward to the long drawn out process for him or I, but... i think i know what it might be.

We started giving him puperoni.. (iknow its horrible stuff but he wouldn't perform well without a good stinky treat) about a month or so ago, and he got about a stick and a half today on our walk (coaxing him to keep moving he stops and refuses to walk once in a while) and the day that we went to the state park he fell in the water but there was no color change and today he changed colors... when we were at the park i gave him venison and he didnt have any of that puperoni, could it be a link ya think?

 

[Hucklebutt]

iiiick allergy season, I myself is seeing a bit of hair loss on my white female. yuck.

 

[BULLTLOTT]

Possibly. My BT will eat ONE kibble and break out. Ugh. I can't imagine a puperoni stick. No telling what's in those things anyhow!

They have raw freeze dried treats that'll coax your guy and not turn him orange! I forgot where mine came from, I got them as a gift. Freeze dried chicken livers. Lol. That might work better.

Yeah my next BT probably won't be white. (Sorry Lottie!) It sucks too because they're my favorite color in these guys.

 

[crazybully]

Same, my favorite is the White, but i would probably live with another color :lol: i honestly can't think of the day i don't have Tobi though it saddens me...

ya the more i think about it the more i think it is my fault with the damn jumky treats :lol:

 

[Ash71713]

We went through the whole process of trying every different ingredient for our white bt since he was having both stomach and skin issues (both terrible.. he was at the vet almost every week).. we finally figured out that it was chicken.. and Juno (our tri) ended up having the exact same issue.. if they get even one treat that has chicken in it theyll be sick for days. we now only get stuff with lamb or treats that are vegetables or stuff like that... kinda hard since chicken seems to be in everything made for dogs.

 

[King Rat]

The first thing I thought when I saw this picture was an allergy! Spud had a very similar problem when he was a puppy. it completely cleared up once i had changed his diet, after a bit of trial and error I’ve worked out that Pork and beef don't agree with him.

you can see how orange his feet are in this picture

 

[Matt]

Looks like Spud's trying to chameleon himself to the color of the carpet so you won't notice him chewing it.

 

[crazybully]

Wow! those look just like Tobi's feet even after a few different vets (none had ever seen a BT) they didn't know what to do about it just medicated wipes etc, and we did change him off of Blue chicken/brown rice and they started to get better and clearer.

We are investigating to see what it could be causing an upset in his system, I honestly think it is the treats. it coincides with the issues timing and the timing that he started getting those treats.

The oddest thing is that there isn't any skin irritation, but nevertheless were going to go 12 weeks just meat/bone no treats flavored chews etc.

 

[crazybully]

okay we've had a small problem just started yesterday, when i first noticed it was when he was playing with the cat so i didn't give it a second thought till today he was laying on my face and i saw it close up, it almost appears to be pyoderma, scabby area with discoloration etc.

when he was a small pup he had pussy things on his belly and we treated it, but we havent had a problem since, we are taking him to the vet, she probably won't know wtf is going on and she will probably just tell us to wash him in a medicated shampoo 4 times a week again... idk wtf to do and i'm at the end of my rope with this, i can't handle more stress and him being sick is a huge stressor, does anybody have any idea what this looks like?