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What Is An American Bully?

Discussion in 'American Bully' started by Sagebrush, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. buddysmom

    buddysmom Good Dog

    Really? not bashing Am bullies but EEEEEEEW.
     
  2. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    Sigh

    its the same thing over and over and over. y did u get posting privaledges if u just want to come bash? and next your going to say,,,,im not bashing im just asking a question. the same question has been asked over and over and over and still cant come to an agreement,,,,,,only arguements, yet its asked over and over and over. if i showed u my boy in person, 100% RAZORS EDGE i might add, you WOULD NOT be able to tell hes ambully. He's in apbt standard, yet i still call him a ambully, cuz thats what he IS. People always post the worst possible representations of this breed that they can possibly scrape up on the internet. this is not the case, with about i'd say 60% of the population of ambullies, yes there are poor breeding practices in ambullies, but if you dont think the same for the apbt, then you are quite slow. its just always the same ol sh!t ever time i come to a forum, it gets old. makes people with the american bullies that are not overdone, just want to stay away. cuz your going to judge either way. your no different that hsus or peta. you JUDGE. ---shane
     
  3. buddysmom

    buddysmom Good Dog

    Yeah, but ... "Pocket" size? It is not bashing Am Bullys in the least to say that "Pocket Sized," XXL, etc. does not communicate any kind of cohesive or responsible breeding standard.

    Who is leading the charge with this breed?

    *sigh*

    If someone wants to revoke my posting privileges here, go ahead.
     
  4. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    Dave wilson.
     
  5. buddysmom

    buddysmom Good Dog

    (Long) excerpt from:

    Bully: This, That The Other Thing - American Bullies and 'bully style' Pit Bulls

     
  6. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    that post wasnt directed to you, it was directed to the person who started the thread, and a little heat was thrown off on the rest of the ones who went along with it, so in essense, a little towards you also. but its all good. ---shane

    ---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------

    and by the way, that "long excerpt" is nothing but somebodys opinion. everybodys got an opinion just like everybody's got an @$$hole, and most of them stink.
     
  7. buddysmom

    buddysmom Good Dog

    Well thanks :)

    I am not denying it is someone's opinion, and can not even say one way or another whether I agree with it all, but I do think some good points are made within. This one is especially interesting:

     
  8. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    again, nothing but opinion. you must be a die hard apbt person. what about the american bully intimidates you people so much? yea alot of ppl call their bullies apbt. most of them dont know any better. they go to a breeder, for 90% of the times a FAMILY PET, usually a byb, because they havnt done their research. and what do they get, a GOOD FAMILY PET. which is exactly what your APBT are NOWADAYS because u cant use it for what its originally BRED FOR which is the [] (legally that is). its not like the apbt is on the verge of going extinct. ambully is a fairly new breed in which i believe to be heading into a good direction. weither you like it r not, the history does steam to apbt 1 way r the other. mostly staff lines. heres a ped. u tell me if my lines r invisible. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=249575 and also, alot more people are trying to seperate the ambully. you cant sit here and say that nothing is being done. they created the abkc, which has a long way to go, i will agree, and also, the standards have a long way to go. i as you do not like to see ambullies all over the board, mostly due to outcrosses by BYBS, but still that is all human interaction it has nothing to do with the dogs themselves. i feel as bad as you do for the morbidly obese, bowed dogs that are nothing but a walking time bomb, or severly plaqued with bad joints/elbows. there are good breeders within the ambully community, but they take time inquring just as you would do the same with a reputable apbt breeder.
     
  9. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Keep in mind,Vdub, the original post is over a year old.
     
  10. buddysmom

    buddysmom Good Dog

    I will check out all of the above (after dinner), and thanks for your insight :)

    I am not a hardcore APBT person at all. I am more of a hardcore "don't breed for size, color, and basically don't breed at all if you are not in the top echelon of breeders, and btw screw all designer breeds" kind of person. I respect very responsible breeding, but I am also a bleeding heart for all the great unwanted shelter dogs.

    Anyway, I'll get back with ya later :)

    ---------- Post added at 07:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:09 PM ----------

    OK ... first of all Dowdy's Pike is beautiful!!

    Very healthy, sound, great looking dog (to my admittedly untrained eye).

    ---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:43 PM ----------

    Actually from my observations it is, so I must completely disagree with that statement

    ---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 PM ----------

    Glad to hear, and agreed! :)
     
  11. vdubbinya

    vdubbinya Little Dog

    my b chj, i didnt even look @ when it was originally posted :D sorry i get heated when they jump my lil boy haha :D its all good though, every1 has opinions. i respect theirs as much as my own. i thought it said 09 haha :o:o:o:o my b ----shane
     
  12. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    It's understandable. :)
     
  13. ChicagoBullyBreed

    ChicagoBullyBreed Little Dog


    i believe you were looking at ICK's website...not Great Lakes Bullyz.
    There dogs are not bowed.

    Its pretty rediculous that people on here can't seem to get along. We're all here because WE LOVE DOGS, right?? soooo, why sit and hate on someone's dog just because it's an xL Bully or whatever? who the hell cares? it's someones dog, companion, pet....let it be!

    Me prefuring the XL bullies is no different than someone choosing a toy size breed...people like different sizes!!

    I'm considering just leaving the pitbull chat all together because so many people are too judgmental and RUDE on here!
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 22, 2009
  14. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I'd hate if you'd left just because people have different opinions than you. However, if you think this forum is "judgmental and rude" when it comes to Ambullies, wait, until you get to some of the other forums, they are unforgiving.

    Yes, we all do love dogs. That is why some of us get angry at people that breed genetic messes and walking health problems. No, I am not saying ALL Ambullies are genetic messes or walking health problems, nor am I saying that the Ambully is the only breed that is full of unhealthy dogs. Just to make that clear.

    There are some good people who really do care about Ambullies in the breed, thankfully. However, it appears there are many more that just seem to see $$$$ and think I'll just keep adding XXXXs and see how much more $$$$ I can get out of some ignorant buyer.


    ---------- Post added at 09:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

    I wanted to add that the American Bully section used to be open to all, so, some posts that one might see as breed "bashing" are still in here. However, in hopes of helping the Ambully people out, we made it a private forum.
     
  15. ChicagoBullyBreed

    ChicagoBullyBreed Little Dog

    I understand what you're saying about breeders who are in it to make a living off of unhealthy dogs. i've been an advocate of bully breeds for 13 years. -That's why i decided on Great Lakes Bullyz. Many of his dogs have become certified physical therapy dogs (which is what my female will be used for) and another has been trained as a police k9, he attends shows all over the country. And his reason for this breeding is to produce a litter that hopefully carries on the drive of the mother who is training for police k9, drug sniffing right now and is doing extremely well. I'm not just some idiot who wants a "dog with a big head" that's gross. I'm looking for a "larger bully" because she will be assisting with physically therapy work for my clients with physical disabilities. And honestly i just prefur the xl bullies.

    He also has all of his dogs health tested, hips,etc. They all come with a health certificate and guarantee. He's not just an asshole looking to make a buck. He refuses to sell to people all of the time if they don't meet the qualifications or he believes it wouldn't be a fit home.

    I just wish people wouldn't just see an xl bully and automatically get defensive and have to bash it because it's not the STANDARD apbt. Well, guess what? i have 3 of those so i'm well aware of the differences. And to me, they are used for very different things.

    Just think about shit before you go ahead and insult someones dog. The same way you don't like it when people tell you that your breed is VICIOUS... i don't enjoy having my breed called UNHEALTHY and USELESS with nothing backing the statement.

    The fact is...some apbt's are aggressive. and YES some bullies are bred very poorly. but it doesn't make it true for ALL of them.

    I wanted to add: this was not directed at you Coolhand. It was a statement for many people that i feel jump to bashing something just because it's different.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 24, 2009
  16. Arrowhead

    Arrowhead Good Dog

    Chicago, I agree with a lot you just stated, but like CHJ pointed out, this forum use to not be private and that's why you see a lot of the bashing. As a AmBully owner I can sympathize with you 'cause many of us with good dogs, who believe in health testing, getting out and doing stuff with our dogs and who don't believe in BYBs and people who just wanna breed for big bucks, get lumped in with all the others. Our dogs also get lumped in with all the unhealthy, genetic messes (or freaks as some idiot breeders call them) you see posted all over the internet. I've seen many times where someone will ask what an AmBully is and someone will post a picture of a structurally unsound mess as an example. Yes, many are structurally unsound, but not all are. An ethical breeder wouldn't breed crap like that. Anyway, don't let these things get to you and please don't leave the forum because different opinions. AmBullies need advocates like you who believe in the whole dog. Hopefully someday we'll outnumber the morons who only care about head size and how much money they can make off these dogs. AmBullies are a fad right now and I'll be glad to see the day when their popularity wanes. I think then the people who really care about the whole dog will be able to fix the mess the BYBs have made.
     
  17. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    i still cant figure out how all these different dogs can be called one breed considering theres every damn kind of mastiff and bulldog in different strains of these dogs why dont "American Bully" owners just call there dogs bulldog mixes??? because thats what they are
     
  18. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Okay, I was about to say "woo there buddy.." lol.

    I agree with you there. I think the breed was potential that it just hasn't been able to reach because every time the good breeders take a step forward, the idiots take them two steps back.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 24, 2009
  19. GME

    GME Little Dog

    The bully style dogs have been around for nearly 25 years...
     
  20. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    Bandogs like Eddington's Whopper really helped to boost the AmBully in the early years as did other such crosses sadly allowed to be labeled as APBTs.

    But let's face it, the oversized fad really boomed in the late 1990's and early 2000's.
     

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