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Walks like a duck

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Beki, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    Some people might also find PBC by trying to seek out useful information on a breed that they think they have. Is that such a bad thing? Or should members of PBC have to show their papers at the door and wait for approval into the forum based on what is found from the papers they provide? And if they do not have papers or papers that comply, sorry, see ya later, we're not going to take you into our fold because your pet does not conform?
     
  2. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    If you think that is what I'm saying. You misunderstand completely <<< I understand that.
     
  3. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    They are Am Stafs registered as APBTs.
    Nothing new.
     
  4. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    I show Sako as an Amstaff in AKC, and an APBT in UKC. Big deal.

    Now I will go try to sift through the last 5pgs. of this thread to understand it completely.
     
  5. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    Good luck :P


    Jaclyn

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  6. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    Basically, not all ducks are ducks, even if it meets all qualifications of being a duck. Specific breed rescues have no business claiming to rescue specific said breeds, because, without paper and documentation, there is no proof that the breeds that are coming from the rescue are indeed actually that breed. Make sense? Everything needs to be documented and registered (By recognized registries or some ones little black book) in order for you to be able to claim that you own a specific breed of duck.
     
  7. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Beki ... when I first came to this forum, a dog from unknown origin and pedigree brought me here. I KNEW coming in that while I WOULD HAVE LIKED to have known his pedigree. I never would know. I also KNEW that he was of a breed type and I would find help here on PBC. I NEVER proclaimed him to be purebred ... OR ... accepted it when someone said he LOOKED pure bred. In fact, he may NEVER have had a registered purebred dog in his pedigree, dunno.

    NOT because he wasn't a fine dog that MAY have looked pure bred ... but because I had no way of knowing for sure. In the right light I could see APBT, AST and even a glimpse/glimmer of SBT ... as well as any mix of those pit bull breeds you'd like to name. Shoot ... I didn't even call him a pit bull OR allow others to call him pit bull. He NEVER saw the [] <<< box. He was simply a bull and terrier ... pet and companion. "Bull and Terrier" was good enough for dogmen before there was EVER a breed name and registry standard and it was good enough for me.

    And guess what Beki ... he meant more to me than ANY pure bred pedigreed and registered dog on this forum or on this planet. But I would NEVER have called him something I didn't know for a fact and in reality, he was.

    My "Bull and Terrier", Rowdy ...
    This so called pit bull "looks" pure bred doesn't he :lol: ... I would have corrected you as I did others and told you I don't know if he is or not. And guess what Beki ... I was MORE proud to own THAT particular dog than the pure bred, pedigreed and registered dog I have now. ... at least for the time being HA !!!

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  8. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Some said Rowdy looked pitterstaff (well Staf except for the red nose LOL) ... I guess that would make him a pure bred APBT or (disqualified) AST huh ?? :lol:

    Know what you have and call it what it is. If a breed name is so important to you ... get a pure bred pedigreed and registered dog ... call it a day. All else is NOTHING more than opinion and speculation.
     
  9. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    That's not necessarily true either. I have a registered, pedigreed dog and it still isn't what it says it is.


    Jaclyn

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  10. Zylonist

    Zylonist Little Dog

    Joe Bingo my rednose, oops did I say rednose HA. My apbt is going to look very similar to Rowdy. He still a pup though.
     
  11. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    Derp. NM. UKC doesn't count lol.

    Gawd I'm confused.


    Jaclyn

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  12. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Well, people today tend to think in terms of breed names. And Rowdy sure looked like a Pit Bull TO ME (there, there's my opinion!). People are going to look at you kind of strange when you say "bull and terrier"....I think it does more good for the breed when someone meets a great friendly dog like Rowdy and you say he IS a Pit Bull.

    I really can't understand what people are ashamed of enough to actually correct someone that says about a dog like Rowdy looks like a Pit Bull. We KNOW he doesn't have a pedigree and all THAT means!

    Carla
     
  13. marriss770

    marriss770 Good Dog

    This seems to be the question of the day around here.......:confused:
     
  14. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Zylonist ... all I was ever told about Rowdy (in hushed words and not by the breeder) was that he was down from Very Good "working" bulldawgs outta the Florida panhandle. Honestly I didn't care to know any more than that. It didn't matter to me one bit. Rowdy was a dog that picked me in the truest sense. He kept escaping from his backyard breeder so often the guy finally gave Rowdy to me. Rowdy was the runt of a litter of 10 (I never saw his littermates or his sire ... said to be a brindle) ... no one wanted Rowdy. Musta been a hella litter LOL. Rowdy picked me and was NOT to be denied. I was very lucky he found me. Until you welcome me home once more, Rest in Peace Bulldawg Buddy Boy ~~~
     
  15. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    Pit bull is a very generic term anyways. It has been for a long time and covers a group of dogs (APBT, AST, SBT, AmBully, etc).


    Jaclyn

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  16. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    More than likely he was NOT an Am Staf, but it's possible. (There ARE Am Stafs with red noses, just really rare).
    It's a lot more likely that he could have been a "pitterstaff' -- a dog that would be eligible for UKC (or ADBA) registration ONLY, but has some AKC dogs back there as well.
     
  17. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Mostly I just called Rowdy a bulldog. Nothing more and nothing less ... unless pressed and I would say he was bull and terrier.
     
  18. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    None of that opinion and speculation bothered me one bit. I didn't waste my days and nights thinking about it. Rowdy was a bulldog or Bull and Terrier. Good enough for me.
     
  19. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    It's revisionist history. Another harmful "truth" that revisionist history has brought us.
    This has now led to the general theory now that there is no such breed AS an American Pit Bull Terrier period.
     
  20. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    ... or ... if you ask SOME ... huhrumpfff ... they're ALL ... APBT ... ALL of them :lol:
    Except those pesky ASTs over in the AKC.
    OH WAIT ... they're APBT too ... except in the AKC. Shoot
     

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