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The How To Evaluate & Pick a Puppy

Discussion in 'Pit Bull Puppy Discussions' started by Patch O' Pits, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits Good Dog

    The How To Evaluate & Pick a Puppy

    There are a few main things are that are looked for when an eval is done then other factors that certainly come into play when making final choices.

    Most reputable breeders will eval and put the pups in order accordingly after looking at these factors as related to the breed standard of the org the pup is registered with, they are in no specific order here:
    Eval. for:
    -structurally correct
    -proper temperament
    -working drive and ability.
    - overall health
    -personality

    Other important things to consider:
    - bloodlines
    - registry
    - what the parents are like
    - how the pups are being kept
    - how the breeder is socializing them
    - titles of the parents and others in the line
    - health of parents and others in the line/health testing
    - expectations for the pup for example- show, working, strictly pet

    A pup that meets the needs and expectations of their breeding program as a whole is usually deemed the pick pup. Pick of the litter means different things to different people.

    The sex of the dog may or may not be a factor if their is a preference but not as to quality as a whole to which is actually the pick of the litter.

    When you have bred a great litter picking becomes harder and harder as many may fit the bill.

    Often I see kennels advertising show or working quality pups that are newly born which there is no way to tell if that will be the case so early. You certainly can't look at a couple of week old pup and know much of anything besides that it is cute and its color. You can of course also see if the pup has obvious issues like a tail is kinked, if it has cleft palate.

    Color should NOT be the basis of making a pick. Of course it is OK to have preferences, but the other things listed are what is much more important.

    That is why first and most importantly the knowing standard inside and out, and the breeders experience overall with the breed and doing evals come into play a great deal when you are searching for an addition to your family.

    Then evaluation tools such as Puppy Puzzle, Volhard Puppy Apt test etc are extremely useful so is just daily observations of the litter and individual pups.
    Links:
    Volhard Puppy Apt test
    Volhard Puppy Aptitude Test
    (I like to adapt this to my own needs and eval)

    Puppy Puzzle
    Dogfolk Enterprises - Videos, Books and Seminars for puppy evaluation and dog showing

    After a proper eval is done it is easier for a breeder to help a potential new owner be matched to the right type of pup for them.
    What the new owners are looking for in a pup ie. show working both or solely a pet needs to become a factor in placements. This helps to make for both a happy owner and happy pup. This is just one of the many reasons it is important to really get to know and trust the breeder you are dealing with when purchasing a pup.

    Just sharing for those who are interested in Puppy Puzzle for evaluating puppies. It is a great tool that teaches you how to eval a litter more accurately

    A pup at 8 weeks as long as they are not born premies, runts or have some other major health issue will pretty much give you a good idea of what the dogs adult structure will be; as seen in the below picts I took of Samurai who was a puppy out of my litter. Here is the day I did the eval and him as he matured. LOL almost the same pose too, what a brat :woof:

    week 8 Oh mom, just give me the dang cookie this show stuff is making me hungry
    [​IMG]

    Samurai the weekend he Championed... such a wiggle butt:
    [​IMG]

    So as you see pups grow and change yet there are ways to sort of look into the future to help make better choices.

    Of course no eval is foolproof but when looking for specific things in a new pup they are extremely useful.
    Having a clear cut plan for exactly what you want and expect from your pup is a huge help when picking the right one for you and your family.

    Hope that helps
     
  2. BTTMike

    BTTMike Little Dog

    STICKY!!!

    This answers so much. I was actually going to start a thread on this very subject. Thanks Patch!
     
  3. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits Good Dog

    I'm glad you found it useful!
     
  4. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    I personally do not believe in any type of temperament test for puppies --- such as the Volhard Puppy Apt test. I dont think you can tell at this age, if a dog has a "high drive" , "high energy " etc.

    I pick the best looking male puppy, as long as it does not have any faults or any weird conformation etc. So yeah. I do go by color and looks when choosing a pup this young.


     
  5. retro

    retro Little Dog

    i have to disagree with this pretty completely.
     
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  6. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Good info. Thanks Patch!
     
  7. BigBoy69

    BigBoy69 Little Dog

    good info
     
  8. Prophecy

    Prophecy Good Dog

    I think the temperment tests give a pretty good idea of the dogs predisposition to temperment,but environment,diet and trauma/stress can change a dogs demenor,esspecially in the formative years.

    Thanks for such a useful post!
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Puppy

    Thank you for the tips indeed, I feel like learned so much! thank you once again.
     
  10. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits Good Dog

    True, however, I just wanted to add, in my opinion a great dog with a stable temperament is not easily ruined. I had to add that because I see too many out there making excuses for dogs with unstable temperaments including ones that are sadly even in breeding programs.
     
  11. I agree, color should'nt be your first choice. Health of the parents and how the pups are socialized is key. Structure is also a must! Bowed legs are never good no matter how thick the pit is.:sonn_u11:
     
  12. modelhyp

    modelhyp Puppy

    Thanks so much.
    I've learned A LOT!
     
  13. mcgreen_26

    mcgreen_26 Puppy

    puppy is a crap shoot period, u can look at the parents and get a guess at what u may get, but if its a yuppie line u are gonna get a yuppie dog, better off on a breeder that wont sell until they around a year old most us breeders ruined,or killed off what was left of the old blood lines years ago, so if ur not careful u'll end up with one of them new fad dogs there trying to pass off,i know there is a lot of em out there,gotti,razor,any thing bully, if ur after apbt hate saying it but get a import or go to a pound or adopt,unless u are after a cur, the funny part is these kids buying and selling these 4000 bullies, as they call em are better off, if they were sold a real pit they would end up on the news,
     
  14. DeeDirtyDawg

    DeeDirtyDawg Good Dog


    riiiight.... so i'm willing to bet you don't research pedigree and bloodline... because those two things are in place to assure that choosing a pup is NOT a crapshoot!
    you say "most us breeders ruined," but if you were actually a breeder, you would know that well bred dogs from solid lines are much alike, aside from having different personalities, they should have a similar appearance and drive, and CERTAINLY you won't need to wait until they're a year old to find out which pup in the litter has the most drive, and which has the least, in fact, those traits usually become obvious when they're quite small, not even ready to leave their mama and littermates!

    go hang out with a breeder. a breeder of purebred dogs- any solid, established lines of any working breed. get yourself a mentor. you'll learn this real quick!
     
  15. hunnbunny360

    hunnbunny360 Puppy

    Just a real quick question, When I first went to look at chev I noticed he had a kink in his tail, I asked the breeder about it and she said that it was because there was so many puppies in the moms belly, I believe there was 9 in the belly...Could there be anything wrong with him later, right now it doesnt seem like theres anything wrong with it, I dont think it hurts him or bothers him in anyways..

    And frankly, I love it because it makes it easier to poke him with it.
     
  16. Maggie

    Maggie Puppy

    Thanks for the info I will pass this on. Thanks Patch

    [Thanks for the info]

    ---------- Post added 01-12-2010 at 12:00 AM ---------- Previous post was 01-11-2010 at 11:56 PM ----------

    ;) Good info Patch thanks so much for taking the time to write this. I am unsure of the Test. Very good Article
     
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  17. NorCalTim

    NorCalTim Puppy

    1)Attitude
    2)build
    3)ability to look far away and see/hear what it going on
    4)curious
    The runts tend to be fire balls.
    Off course if the pup can be on its back in your hand, he has a better temperament.
    Here is a pup I have- she will be staying close by.:)
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZJW_9p77c"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
     
  18. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits Good Dog

  19. rynoman12

    rynoman12 Puppy

    i have a new pitbull mix that i got from the pound and i was wondering how big she will get she is about 26 lbs and 5 to 5 1/2 months this is her lol [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQAt3QbYrA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQAt3QbYrA[/ame]
     
  20. NorCalTim

    NorCalTim Puppy

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