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The APBT and Aggression

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Sabrina, May 14, 2010.

  1. Cosmic Charlie

    Cosmic Charlie Good Dog

    A behavioral specialist is a great idea. As for exercise with your husband using a cane and you gone for the day can still be done. That is why I mentioned a carpet mill before. They are great tools for ANY dog and will ensure your dog is well worked and tired. Behavioral problems can happen for many reasons. There are often times an dog is displaying behavioral issues and in turn not being exercised enough. Every dog needs to be exercised mentally and physically. By not providing mental and physical stimulation dogs will often act out, even when their training was carried out to the fullest extent. That goes for all dogs but especially, bull dogs. In case you don't know or didn't read that part of my last post a carpet mill is a dog treadmill. A new on is around 300-350. You can often find used ones for ~100-200 or even build your own easily. They don't even need a motor (though you can build one with a motor). It is the perfect tool for you and your husband in your situation. Your husband shouldn't have a problem working him on that while your gone. Once a day or even twice will ensure your dog is satisfied mentally and physically. I find my dogs are overall satisfied and content when worked (everyday). Oh, and they like to sleep a lot when worked well which is always a nice thing. Your husband should be able to pull up a chair and let the dog get their energy out. I assure you it would come in handy for someone in your situation.

    Besides the exercise I still suggest a behavioral specialist.
     
  2. Ella

    Ella Puppy

    Wow excellent read! This really explains some of the questions Ive had. Makes sense! I see why its so important to have structured play with these dogs especially and I know with my girl she would probably love a good fight as sweet as she is its just a part of what she is. Not everyone should have any kind of dog I guess, you have to know what your commiting to. Its nice to hear someone address this with some honesty and reality!
     
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  3. Ella

    Ella Puppy

    I think its because people have tried to help the breed by saying they are not agressive ever if raised right and so thats all many of us first time owners know. There needs to be some balanced reality taught.
     
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  4. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

  5. Thanks Trudi's Daddy for the grounded thoughts. APBT's as a breed (depending on whom you ask) may be more DOD aggressive than other breeds, but even within a breed, there are personality variations. We have had two pit bull types over the past 5 years--one mix and one purebred. The mix passed and we recently adopted another mix. The two older dogs never started a fight, but when we took in a third rescue pittie for possible adoption last year, the third tried to kill one of our dogs. It was brutal. We didn't adopt the third dog. Anyway, nice thread.

    Just as an aside...I've had lots of breeds over the past 53 years, and the tie for craziest of them all went to a purebred Walker Hound, and a purebred Australian Shepherd. The Walker was born loony. The Aussie flipped out at about two. The best was a purebred Lab. I'm hoping Lexi (my avatar) will give him a run for the money.

    All the best,
    Warren
    Familypitbull
     
  6. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    You kind of missed the point. Of course there are cold dogs who never start a fight, but it's not typical of the breed. It's like labs that hate water. They are out there, but you shouldn't buy a lab under the hope that it will never want to play ball or swim in the lake. The problem is when people expect that since they had a cold dog, therefore all APBT are cold. When they get one who wants to eat their cat and the neighbors dog suddenly they aren't such fans of the breed, even though prey drive, fighting and dog aggression are well known and common traits of bull and terriers.
     
  7. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    x2.

    Even the laziest most placid dogs can suddenly go all out on something without warning. Lucy is probably as lazy as they come, but aside from being an awesome vermin killer, she's gone ham a handful of times at random dogs, even large livestock and wildlife (real fun that time she tried to drag me at the police officers on horse back, or when she's tried to run through a fence at deer, or that time she got ahold of one of my mom's loose chickens).

    Livestock and wildlife can be anticipated, but I'll never know exactly what dogs she'll go after so I limit her contact with strange dogs almost entirely.

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  8. Thanks guys. I do feel fortunate to have a dog that has not shown any DOD, DOH, or dog on chicken aggression to date (we have 12 hens); good layers:
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    I hope her next six years are as peaceful as her first six.

    All the best to you and your pitties.
    Warren
    http://www.familypitbull.com
     
  9. daniel munk

    daniel munk Puppy

  10. SevenSins

    SevenSins Forget The Dog, Beware Of Owner Staff Member Administrator Super Moderator

    What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?
     
  11. Boogie87

    Boogie87 Puppy

    This article was great. Mostly because of the comparison to other working dogs. I have friends that have APBT mixs. I have been trying to bring them to this forum and educate them about the dog they love. I have met so much resistance. Being able to make a comparision to a collie or even sheltie in terms of herding my help me break a barrier.
    We have the pleasure and problem of being a safe state for this breed. We have no kill shelters, we have aggresivly fought against puppy mills, and any and all animal fighting is a felonly heavily enforced by specialized police task forces. The problem is that reacuers are shipping thier dogs to foster and forever homes here with out education about the breed mixed or pure.
    I Have a family friend that was a foster home for a pitbull rescue group. She ended adopting 3. I was shocked to learn that though they are seperated durning the day when she is not home, she doesnt own a breakstick. Unfortunately she became very angry with me when I tried to warn her. I told her I just didnt want her to get into a situation that she wasnt prepared for. I was polite but i think she saw it as a attack on her intelligence that i dared to educate a foster mom to bullys. I worry the most about her because she is alone in the middle of no wher. How the heck with out a breakstick and education on how to use one would she break up a potential 3 dog dog fight!?
    Rescues do not want to tell a possibly adoptive family about any breed. Yes one should research but this is the only forum i found that has been 100% open and honest about this breed.
    I may have a chance to help her now bc of this article. I may just crack that "its all in the training" defense. I have systematiclly been reaching out to owners. And several vets. In our area. The vets love love any information leading to better education of owners.
    Thank you so much for this Gem of a article!!!
     
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  12. Madeleinemom

    Madeleinemom MS Bites, My Dog Doesn't Staff Member Super Moderator

    I am thrilled that you are giving it a shot and are venturing out there to educate; as you have noticed already, it is not an easy task as many people (however well intended) stick their heads in the sand, where this breed type and its character traits is concerned.

    Let us know how you progress!
     
  13. Boogie87

    Boogie87 Puppy

    Let us know how you progress![/QUOTE]

    I pulled this thread up on my phone, she read it and 3 more threads I showed her. She had such a look on her face. I handed her 3 breaksticks. I gave her 3 leads. This leads are actually for horses but are useful when securing to something that is a bit further away. I also gave her 3 mussels. She looked at me like, and I said its my be responsible care package to you. The sport dog supplier here wanted to help educate about his breed so he donated a crap ton of stuff to me for these little care packages.
    After the intitial shock of having re-adjust her thinking sge looked at me and said it cant hurt to prepare for the worst.
    No hunny it can not. And that is the biggest leason i have learned from this forum.
     
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  14. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs Good Dog Staff Member Administrator Premium Member

    Education and preparation is key!
     
  15. Madeleinemom

    Madeleinemom MS Bites, My Dog Doesn't Staff Member Super Moderator

    I pulled this thread up on my phone, she read it and 3 more threads I showed her. She had such a look on her face. I handed her 3 breaksticks. I gave her 3 leads. This leads are actually for horses but are useful when securing to something that is a bit further away. I also gave her 3 mussels. She looked at me like, and I said its my be responsible care package to you. The sport dog supplier here wanted to help educate about his breed so he donated a crap ton of stuff to me for these little care packages.
    After the intitial shock of having re-adjust her thinking sge looked at me and said it cant hurt to prepare for the worst.
    No hunny it can not. And that is the biggest leason i have learned from this forum.[/QUOTE]

    Fantastic job!!
     

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