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The APBT and Aggression

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Sabrina, May 14, 2010.

  1. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    :lol: I totally did.
     
  2. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    lol
     
  3. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    This is what I do with Bear. I am so glad I started the focus and leave it training when he was pretty young and before he really started wanting to go after other dogs. This has saved me numerous times, and proves that with proper training and a dog who clicks with that training you can have a 60lbs dog under 100% control and focused on you, even though the other dog is flipping and barking like mad on its lead.
    My favorite thing is when someone is being dragged around and wrapping the flexi lead cord around their hand to prevent their CHIHUAHUA from running up to and getting rag dolled by my dog, who is walking by at a perfect heel with some lead slack and looking straight ahead or at me on the way to wherever I am going.
     
  4. PearlBaby

    PearlBaby Puppy

    I have never understood the obsession with pit bulls until I owned my first one. He had soo much love for me and would do anything to get my attention. When he passed I was heartbroken, moreso than I had been with any pet I had owned in my life. The day that I took my Pearl home was one of the best decisions I had made in a long time. She was supposed to be a father's day present to my fiance but she ended up being more like my present. She was about 9 weeks when we took her home and about a week later, she became deathly ill. I took her to the vet and found out she had parvo and if she didn't receive treatment she would die. I had the option of hospitalizing her which would've cost me thousands of dollars, or take her home with some fluids and meds for a few hundred. I made the decision to take her home because if she was going to die, I wanted her to be home with her family and not in a strange place. It took almost a week but somehow I saved her life and its almost like she feels she needs to look out for me. We have been through so much together. She was raised together with my 3 year old son and they are like two peas in a pod. We now have 5 pit bulls have nothing but unconditional love for us and each other. It's not too often you see 5 pit bulls laying on top of each other taking a nap. I wish those people who judge them could see those moments.
     
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  5. So, today while griping about Eden eating a hole in the wall to people at work, the new guy perks up and asks what kind of dog I have. I explain. The conversation immediately goes to how 'vicious' they are. He of course seemed knowledgeable saying that pitbulls aren't usually h/a, just d/a or small animal aggressive. But then he revoked any credit I had given him by saying...Oh but all aggression can be trained out of them. Excuse me? Trained out? You're going to train your dog that when left alone he can't chase and kill a squirrel....surrrre. :mad:
     
  6. MurphysMom

    MurphysMom Little Dog

    This is a legitimate question and one that I have thought about a lot. I know many of you guys do competitions with your dogs be it WP, agility, dock diving, etc. How do you manage your dogs DA at competitions where when they are actually performing, they are doing it off leash? Is it just that they are so focused on the task at hand that they don't think about running up to another dog and fighting? Our puppy Lemmy is 13 weeks and comes from a high drive, high energy mother. If he takes after her, we will NEED to do something like this with him. So far he has shown no DA but you never know. We are prepared for it.
     
  7. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Good question. I've often wondered the same thing about off-leash competition. Though maybe then you just don't compete in off-leash sports with a DA dog?
     
  8. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    In terms of weight pulling, your dog is only off leash when they are attached to the cart, so they aren't going very far before you can catch him/her!

    Dock diving only has one exit ramp IME, and you are there waiting for your dog. You also have a good amount of clearance between you and other dogs (no other dogs on the dock), so I've never seen it be an issue.

    THose are the two sports I most often recommend for people with DA dogs since it gives you good clearance from other dogs and you can intercept your dog before it goes anywhere.

    Things like agility, flyabll, etc. The dogs need to be very focused on the task they are doing because there will be dogs in very close quarters with them, and your dog needs to choose not to go over to them. That's where training comes in. Some pretty dog selective dogs compete in flyball but they are trained so that when they are in those lanes, nothing else matters but the job that they are doing. I don't know about agility, but I'd assume there would be similar types of dogs.
     
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  9. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    So I always thought years from now I would want a puppy friend for Sam.. Maybe I wont need to get one? From what Ive learned so far on here, bully breeds dont need dog companions? Its years away but just wondering...
     
  10. phillysmom

    phillysmom Good Dog

    Nope, most don't need companions. I guess the caveat here is IF you do get another pit bull type you may have to keep them separate at one point in their lives. I think you would have better success with opposite sexes, but that is also no guarantee. The most success I have had is with a pit bull type female with a dal/lab mix male, they are fantastic together and are a bonded pair.
     
  11. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    Thank phillysmom! We're still years from being in a position where well want another dog but ill hang onto the advice!
     
  12. jmsheahan

    jmsheahan Little Dog

    Very good post! Its hard to find a good behavior/aggression trainer in my area(not that I need aggression training for Aston). Any ideas of how to do so?
     
  13. Thank you so much for your posts! I have a pit bull mixed breed we got from the shelter at the age of one to one and a half (who really knows). She is very well behaved and just now (A year later, so as you stated above around 2 years old) is being more and more aggressive toward other dogs. Since we got her a year ago we have always brought Rocsi, our dog, to the dog, had her off the leash as much as possible and allowed her to meet new dogs. Now she is aggressive but not all the time (lukewarm?) and scraps with other dogs randomly but I don't believe she puts her full force into it. She stops when I command her to, so far. Should we stop bringing her to the dog park? I want her to be socialized but I don't want to have her hurt another dog? I am devastated and sad that she is acting this way and this forum is very much educating me to the ways of pit bulls (I use to think it was all in how you train them but my dog is very well behaved and trained well and still is a punk so I took the the internet to help me understand and I found pitbull chat). Advice?
     
  14. Tanktastic

    Tanktastic Big Dog

    There is a sticky about dog parks. Please read it. It's not just a bad place for pit bulls but for any dog breed. You should be your dogs best friend. They don't need doggy friends. Have you taken obedience classes? Have you thought about doing other things with your dog? Like agility, competition obedience?
     
  15. I will def read the sticky about dog parks, where can I find it? I have not taken classes because up until now we have done very well training her ourselves. She listens to us, even my 5 year old, and does what we ask of her even off the leash. Besides the recent DA she is perfect. Should I be worried about her with my son? Should we stop letting her be off the leash? We take her everywhere with us? I, all of a sudden, have so many questions and I did not know what I was getting myself into with her being a pit bull but I can say this; we love her and I would never give up on my child so I will not do that to our dog and I am more than willing to put in a lot of effort to do the right thing for her....I just need to understand what the right thing is?!? :D
     
  16. Tanktastic

    Tanktastic Big Dog

    Here is a link to the Pit bulls and dog parks sticky.
    Pit Bulls and Dog parks

    Dog aggression(DA) and Human aggression(HA) are two separate things, there is information on that as well in another sticky. Any breed of dog can be dog aggressive it's just that pit bulls have a higher incidence of it due to their history(genetics). As a responsible dog owner of any breed "off leash" is one of the most dangerous positions you can put your dog into. Please keep 100% control at all times because it will only take a split second for a dog to chase a squirrel and get hit by a car or react to another dog and possibly cause damage. Please stick around and read, read, read. Having a dog aggressive dog is nothing new and isn't something to be ashamed about. Ask questions if you need to. Use the search because most of the questions you may have, have been answered lots of times already. Please have patience with us here as we try to have patience with new members. Sometimes it's hard answering the same question for the 1,000th time without getting a little crabby. Welcome and I hope we can help you understand more about this wonderful breed.
     
  17. Thank you. I have been reading and learning a lot! Thank you for your patience and I totally understand. I thought I was doing right by my dog and I am not. I will continue to read. Thanks for the support as I become a better dog owner for Miss Rocsi.
     
  18. Bodi

    Bodi Banned

     
  19. Smokin STi

    Smokin STi Puppy

    Very informative post! We have a 1 year old pit named Kingston, and 99.9% of the time he is not aggressive in the least bit. I completely understand that things can easily change, but we haven’t had any issues with his aggression except in one specific case. We have a 5 year old daughter, a very small (5 or 6 lb) dog, and a de-clawed cat living in our house along with Kingston and he has never even attempted to hurt any of them. Any time anyone comes into the house (including our daughter’s friends) he will of course get excited, but NEVER aggressive to anyone. We have an 8ft chain linked fence surrounding our back yard, that I plan to replace with a privacy fence ASAP, and our yard is surrounded on all sides by other dogs. A Lab, Chihuahua, Blue Heeler, Yorkie, Dachshund, a pretty large dog that appears to be some kind of Doberman mix. Kingston will run around the back yard, and have barking matches with them every now and then, but nothing that seems overly aggressive.

    Sorry for the long into, but I feel the background info is necessary. The only problem we have is with 1 neighboring dog. Not sure exactly of the breed, never seen a dog like this, but it looks like a mix between a German Shepherd and a Chow. When he and Kingston are outside together all bets are off. I honestly believe that if the fence wasn’t there, that dog would have been killed the first day we moved in. With any of the other dogs, if I call him he will turn right around and run to me, but he gets so fixated on this other dog that the only way to stop it is by physically removing him. Has anyone else had this kind of experience where their pit is only aggressive to 1 specific dog? He has never come in contact with the dog, only at the fence, and thankfully we haven’t had an instance where they have locked through the fence. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
  20. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I have a dog aggressive dog and cannot tell about his bloodline, nor do I give a shit what it is.. But he's far from cold. What now?
     

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