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The APBT and Aggression

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Sabrina, May 14, 2010.

  1. Filthy

    Filthy Banned

    Yet another mindless post showing that you have much to learn....to bad, it seems you think you already know it all. These animals were not originally bred for hog hunting...they were bred for animal combat. Note the American PIT bull Terrier...not the American Hog bull Terrier, lol. They were originated in parts of the uk, but are called the APBT for they were perfected here. You obviously have no experience with real APBT's....this bred is NOT a pack animal (Cesar Milan doesn't know Bulldogs, lol). All it seems you are doing is spewing what you have heard from animal planet, and other byb's. APBT's are animal aggressive because that is a byproduct of their purpose, more often than not anyway. They were bred for animal combat as I said above which in turn means that animal aggression is an inevitable trait (more often than not) It's not because they were abused, mistreated or "trained" to be that way as hsus, and other organizations would like you to believe. As far as saying you will not be able to trust a dog you see aggression in, I gather you are talking about animal aggression? You should NEVER trust an APBT or really any dog for that matter not to fight. Also just so you know animal aggression, and human aggression are two totally different matters entirely. If you are speaking of human aggression then that is easily trained out with a bullet. By trying to change the breed from what it is supposed to be you are slowly making the true APBT no more.
     
  2. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    The DA comes from the Terrier side of the APBT, so, you can't say that just some a$$es bred it into them.
     
  3. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Big Dog

    If you are going to put the word "Kennel" in your username you might want to brush up on the breeds true origin.

     
  4. PoohsGramma

    PoohsGramma Little Dog

    Being a new pitbull owner, I find these kinds of posts extremely helpful. Thanks for the info. My dog is a year old and has so far shown no signs of DA, however he's only really been exposed to other dogs during his obedience classes (an our one and only visit to the dog park....not to worry, after perusing the forums here, the dog park visit is definitely out).

    Anyway, he seems to only want to play with other dogs, and tends to run in the other direction if fenced dogs bark at him. I read somewhere in this thread that the DA comes out at about age 2. So, is it common for them to be very dog friendly up until that age, and then their attitude changes?
     
  5. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    You know its really refreshing to see someone actually read these threads and learn something from them instead of telling everyone else they are wrong. Thank You for that.

    DA in these dogs can start at anytime, ive seen pups as young as 4-5 months old who were truly DA and on the other hand ive seen some dogs who dont turn on until they are 2-3 years old. I would say the average is around a year though.
     
  6. Filthy

    Filthy Banned

    Posts like this one right here make educating worth while. Dog or other animal aggression really has no set time line. A dog can "turn on" if you will at pretty much anytime. I have personally seen dogs as young as 5 or 6 weeks that needed to be separated from litter mate's because of the aggression level....then again I have seen, and heard about dogs that didn't decide they were bulldogs until they were 4 (not the norm). The act of a dog turning on can come somewhat slowly or like the proverbial switch can flick on at a moments notice...just all of the sudden kind of thing. Has nothing to do with you being a bad dog owner as some fools would have you think...just part of the breed. Just be a responsible dog owner be prepared, and educated if in fact you do feel the need to have more than one dog running around the house at a time. Good rule of thumb with any dog, but even more so with these. Thank you for your wanting to learn :)
     
  7. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    Everything I thought I knew has been turned on its head... LMAO:lol::no2:
     
  8. gonloco

    gonloco Little Dog

    By "accepting" my dog is aggressive means I know what I'm in for.
    Expecting it means I know what I've got.

    Instinct will overcome training all day long and twice on Sunday. I'll use the Lab reference again - sure, you can "train" a Lab not to retrieve, but you can watch that dog die a little inside every time it can't chase a stick. Let that sucker loose in the woods for a day and see where the training goes.

    Anyone that's ever had a yardbreak will give me an AMEN!
     
  9. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    AMEN!

    And gonloco, I totally agree. Training is no match for instinct.
     
  10. bamaman

    bamaman Big Dog

    not a felony.

    I dont think its a felony in Mississippi and Kentucky ...only 2 states i am aware of.
     
  11. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    I actually wouldn't know - but that's the required disclaimer.
     
  12. REV ANGUS

    REV ANGUS Puppy

    thanx for this being here, it is a relief in a way to know that I cant fix DA...whew, but I can and will and believe I am a very aware of Angus's body posture and language. it is calming knowing I have done good job with him so far,and now knowing that he and i can work and enjoy other things rather than me trying to change what and who he is...I love him as a pitbull and if DA is part of it ,we will adjust our actions.
     
  13. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    That's good to hear. :)
     
  14. ordman72

    ordman72 Puppy

    wow this astounds me always expect a bully to fight? the like fighting each other?
    have you ever seen a fight? have you seen one dog just give up? and the owner of
    the other dog rev him up by letting him attack him again and again? you really need to rethink what you believe. they were bred for bull baiting and bear baiting they were thrown in pits with rats. and then when that was out lawed they were turned on each other. with training and proper care they will not fight each other they would have no reason its undisciplined owners the are at fault locking the dogs away not socializing them what else do they know except master wants me to kill this other dog and that's what i will do for MASTER

    ---------- Post added at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 PM ----------

    humans are the most destructive race on the planet at least we can do is educate ourselves
     
  15. rguerra

    rguerra Big Dog

    wtf?
     
  16. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I guess my dogs and about 100+ other APBTs that I know didn't get that memo, ordman.
     
  17. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    At least this part is true. :rolleyes:

     
  18. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    No, it has to do with prey drive. APBTs and many other terriers will see other dogs as 'prey' items and want to fight. It is in their nature because they were selectively bred for it. Think about it...... a dog that WANTED to fight and ENJOYED it would be a better fighter and therefor more likely to be bred, passing on those genetics to the next generation.
     
  19. Lee D

    Lee D Good Dog


    never had one huh? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Mack-Diesel

    Mack-Diesel Puppy

    I got my BullyPit at 7 months of age and brought him home to my 2 year old male redbone coonhound, never once showed aggression just wanted to play and they've been best friends ever sense. However we do have cows and Mack finds it fun to chase them around the field until they decide to chase back!
     

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