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The APBT and Aggression

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by Sabrina, May 14, 2010.

  1. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    Oh God here we go again.....
     
  2. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    First I would like to say Thank You to Trinas' Dad for complimenting my post and for taking the info that I have provided into consideration.

    To answer your questions, yes I think that mixes probably do have alot less of a chance of being DA. However, with a mix breed you can never be sure of the outcome, and it is better to be safe than sorry, right?

    My dog Bransen is also a mix, and he has been attacked by numerous dogs, big and small.
    It was not until recently he began reacting to other dogs, particularly males of the same size and age.
    A small dog can still get away with hassling him no problem.
    All dogs are different.

    As the others have said, some are cold; meaning they never show signs on aggression. Some are lukewarm; meaning that they are selective, but have shown signs of aggression. Some are hot; meaning they are flat-out agressive toward other dogs.

    Most dogs "turn on" (become agressive) around maturity, which is usually about the age of 2 but it does vary, especially with mixes.
    Some dogs turn on as early as a month or so, and some dogs never turn on.

    Is there a possibility that Trina is an AST (American Staffordshire Terrier) not an APBT?
    They are relatively the same breed, separated by one main difference; ASTs were bred for show and conformation while APBTs were bred for gameness.

    juggalette_ftfo - While I understand what you're saying I certainly cannot agree.
    Socialisation is a great tool and is very important, especially with this breed.
    BUT, socialization can and will not affect whether or not a dog is agressive.
    As I said above, some are born hot, some cold, and some lukewarm.

    It is all a matter of being prepared and cautiously judging what situations you allow your dog(s) to be in.
    For the good of other dogs, for the good of your dog(s) and for the good of the breed(s) in general. :)
     
  3. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    Another good post, thanks Bransen
     
  4. great post and great replies. i love posts like this.
     
  5. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    Great post Bransen!

    oh dear god :(
     
  6. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    What is so wrong with the "pits" tendency for dog aggression but it's fine for any other breed of dog? As far as "licensed breeders breeding aggression out" that's a dog I would soo pass on... you are welcome to it, though.

    ---------- Post added at 06:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ----------

    Whoever they are keep them far away from me.
     
  7. APBTlover09

    APBTlover09 GRCH Dog

    people like those idiots, need to stay far away from APBTs and go find another breed. :mad:
     
  8. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    Thanks again, guys.

    It's a very interesting topic to me and I think a very important one when owning/looking into this breed.


    As I was going to say, any breeder who tried to breed DA out of the APBT is either highly irreputable or they are breeding ASTs.
     
  9. chancey6

    chancey6 Puppy

    True

    We have to all know that we have the most versatile breed on this planet, as well as basically a loaded gun. WE have to teach our dogs where and when to shoot~simple as that. Put more time and effort into your dog so WE and only WE can stop the hate towards our breed
     
  10. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    I think I am misunderstanding you, chancey6.
     
  11. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ Good Dog

    He's saying that we are the "hand controlling the loaded gun" that is the APBT.
     
  12. PBT's

    I agree that socialization is the very best thing PBT owners can do other than
    buying their dogs from reputable breeders who breed for temperament.

    I also agree that if a dog is dog aggressive, and it is a genetically based
    aggression, you will never be able to fully trust that he or she will be
    non-aggressive with other dogs no matter what you do and how well your dog
    responds.

    Behavior can be modified, especially if handled very early but temperament
    is for life.

    Ron Berman - Dog Expert, Bite Expert, D.A.B.F.E., Expert Witness and Consultant for Litigation
     
  13. Ladybird

    Ladybird Puppy

    Great post and post follow ups. Thanks for all the info regarding dog aggression! Learning a lot about the breed to help with our new puppy.
     
  14. mavf32

    mavf32 Little Dog

    This was a great article. Thank you for all of the info. I have an 11 week old APBT, and i want to learn as much as i can about them.
     
  15. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    Well said.


    If just one person learns something from this article, I'm happy.
     
  16. TONKAWA

    TONKAWA Puppy

    It sounds to me that people need to do a better job at choosing a breed. If I owned a retreiver, I would never ask it not to retreive or "correct" those behaviors. That is just ridiculous. If you desire a dog to get along with other animals, an APBT is not the right breed for you... I am happy with mans best friend... and I don't see the need to change anything or breed out dog aggression. It is the history of the APBT and made the breed what it is today, a loving, energetic, hard working, family companion.
     
  17. Flatbedder

    Flatbedder Good Dog

    Mine doesn't get all the exercise he needs since he is a truck dog but I do try to get him out for an hr walk everyday plus stopping every few hours tinker him walk. I'm not the best at this but trying
     
  18. between

    between Puppy

    good article
     
  19. Dog aggression

    This is saying these dogs where originally breed to be dog aggressive not true they where breed as hog hunters, Farmers Tools and other working companion. The APBT is the all American working dog, APBTs are a dominate breed and confident they don't need to be dog aggressive that is a damning trait asses breed into them. Dogs are pack animals there will be some aggression in every dog and there will be a dominate ones too. When owning these dogs you need to be as strong as they are. You need to be the dominate one they need to look to you for guidance and you will have a wonderful dog. You do need to feel your dog out and some will be dog aggressive because of what was done to them but if you are careful and show them it is unexceptionable you will be ok. If you do see aggression in your dog you will not be able to trust them fully but under supervision they should be fine. By excepting that APBT are just going to be dog aggressive you are damning the breed.


     
  20. AnnieC

    AnnieC Good Dog

    Where the hell did you get that crap from? :no2:
     

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