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Testicles not descended at 16 weeks

bluey87

Puppy
Is this common for the apbt? I'm getting a little worried as I was hoping to breed him.

I've heard around 8 weeks is when they should come through, is it likely that they will come after 16 weeks? What's the latest I should wait before getting him fixed?
 
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bluey87

Puppy
When he arrived at 13 weeks of age I took him to the vet to get his shots. Thats when the vet mentioned that it might be a bit of concern that he couldn't yet feel them.

After doing some more research online the general consensus seems to be that they should appear at around 8-12 weeks of age. However there was a mention somewhere that pits sometimes do take longer (up to a year sometimes).
My cousin who also has an apbt said that it was around 6 months that his dogs testicles appeared, though he didn't seem to certain.

I was just wondering if anyone had any first hand experience with the issue and whether I should give up hope of them ever coming though.
 

Beatrix Kiddo

Good Dog
give it time, it could still drop. However if it does not, you'll need an operation to remove the testicle from the abdominal cavity or the groin depending on where it is. Otherwise it could cause tumors and health issues later in life. There is still time for it to drop though, by 6 months if it still has not descended then i would speak to your vet about operating to remove it.
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
give it time, it could still drop. However if it does not, you'll need an operation to remove the testicle from the abdominal cavity or the groin depending on where it is.

If they're not down by 6 months (as Beatrix said), they're almost definitely not coming down, and whoever told you that this is either common in APBTs or that it takes APBTs' testicles longer to descend don't know what they're talking about and that almost sounds like something I'd expect to hear come from a Bully BYB (because seriously, I have never seen another category of people who will do and say just about anything to justify breeding a dog with health and/or structural issues). For the record, a dog with UDT should never be bred, but since you mentioned neutering, I hoping that I am mainly leaving this here for others who stumble across this thread later...

I have to ask. What is special about this puppy that at 4 months you're already wanting to breed him?
 
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bluey87

Puppy
Yeah that's what I though, if they aren't through by 7 or 8 months I'll get him done for sure.

The reason I want to breed him is because everything else about him is awesome, from his structure to his temprement, the way he's going he's going to be a really good looking dog by the time he's done growing. His bloodline is also exactly what I wanted and these dogs with good pedigrees are hard to find where I'm from.
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
Have photos and pedigree to post? Curiosity and all that.
 

bluey87

Puppy
I don't have papers. I trust the guy who I got him from though and what he's told me about his breeding. Be happy to post some photos when I get home though.

I was mainly just wanting another one for myself though and I have a couple of friends who want one also. Not looking to continuously breed him too make profit or anything like that, I most likely would have got him fixed after I bred him once anyway.
 

FransterDoo

Big Dog
Yeah that's what I though, if they aren't through by 7 or 8 months I'll get him done for sure.

The reason I want to breed him is because everything else about him is awesome, from his structure to his temprement, the way he's going he's going to be a really good looking dog by the time he's done growing. His bloodline is also exactly what I wanted and these dogs with good pedigrees are hard to find where I'm from.

He is just a puppy. While you might have some sort of idea about those things...most of it can still change, including temperament.
 

BCdogs

Good Dog
Super Moderator
What exactly is his "hard to find" bloodline that you have no proof of? Sounds like exactly what every BYB is selling nowadays, something "rare".
 

bluey87

Puppy
Yeah fair enough, it was never a guarantee that I would breed him anyway I just would have liked the option open. See how he goes, at this point though he's an awesome pup.
 

bluey87

Puppy
Well, at least you didn't say blue and RE, I could have had a field day with that... :lol:

I planned on getting papers but I got him through a friends friend, he's a bit funny about giving them out it seems.

Anyway I'll put some pictures up later on.
 

Cosmic Charlie

Good Dog
I planned on getting papers but I got him through a friends friend, he's a bit funny about giving them out it seems.

Anyway I'll put some pictures up later on.
"Funny" about giving them out means they don't exist. It's fine and there is no problems with that, but when the sire and dam are registered with a reputable and respective registry for the relevant breed if dog you will get the registration form to submit via mail to the registry. Even when the breeder decides to not provide such documents for you to mail in, you can still register the dog. You cannot register the dog IF the Sire AND dam aren't registered with the registry and I believe you cannot register your dog if the litter wasn't registered by the breeder. In reality, if the breeder is breeding dogs that CAN be registered (ie. sire/dam registered) then chances are the litter will be registered. If you hear excuses from the breeder that always means they are hustling you. If the dog can be registered your breeder would have provided all the relevant information to do so. There is no logical reason to play games and make excuses ynless the dogs are not papered and they're byb's trying to sell something they dont have. There is always the chance if hung papers but that's for another discussion.of course there is always exceptions, but there isn't a logical reason to be " funny" about handing them out. That's not how papers works, he doesn't need to hand you anything.just register the litter is all
 
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