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Oh trust me I'm not asking because I want one of those mutts lol. I was just wondering if anyone had seen/heard anything about the dogs being HA or otherwise iffy.
Aside from that dog, it's all hearsay and speculation, and that isn't enough for me to comment on.
Holy shit, that's horrific.
Alright, I'm going to go ahead and update thread because at this point, the "hearsay and speculation" about the other dog I had in mind (Osy) seems plausible enough to justify posting about it.
The two dogs that Clay was regularly traveling with were Osy and Boogieman. There was a very clear difference in the way that he handled these two dogs. For instance, Boogieman was often out of the crate, and Clay often used him as a demo dog. He would leave Boogieman in a down-stay ringside while he helped to move block for weightpull, or do paperwork, etc. There were many occasions where multiple hands were on Boogieman, and he wouldn't so much as flinch. In comparison, Osy usually spent the entire time he was at an event crated. Clay would pull him out of the crate and lead him to the weightpull track, or whatever else he was doing with him, and when he was done, Osy was immediately walked back to his crate. I do not personally know of a single instance where Osy ever had anyone handle him or put their hands on him outside of Clay's "circle." We've always speculated that there was something off about Osy's temperament that caused this dramatic difference in handling.
I received very credible information that at a Mondioring event held earlier this month, Osy was off-lead doing (I believe it was) a retrieve exercise. After he failed to complete the exercise correctly, and Clay attempted to discipline the dog, Osy got away from him and redirected on a young lady standing ringside, tearing off at least two of her fingers and part of her hand. Someone had to shove something down his throat to make him vomit those parts back up. This happened in front of hundreds of people, including a UKC judge. Clay made excuses for the dog's behavior and refuses to euthanize Osy.
So, there you have it.
BTW there weren't hundreds of people there as far as I know.
SevenSins said:Good, I'm actually glad that I must've misheard this part. All the breed needs is for something like that to happen during a higher capacity dog event. Hopefully that shitbag and his dangerous BYB mutt have caused minimal damage to our breed. More importantly, do you have any idea how the woman it attacked is doing now? I'm not sure who she is.
I hadn't heard about all that. Just his other seemingly daily dances through the court system and general shit-baggery.
Jesus. That's insane.
And you know he got off for all that shit he did? Trial was today. It's disgusting.
I've heard the Osy story as well and would really like to know how the lady is doing..
And you know he got off for all that shit he did? Trial was today. It's disgusting.
I've heard the Osy story as well and would really like to know how the lady is doing..