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Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by khaandsjc, Nov 12, 2011.

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  1. Hotchkiss

    Hotchkiss Banned

    None. And to be fair, if I had a show pit, I would crop its ears with a show crop and if I had a game dog with long ears, I would give it a battle crop, but I don't and neither do most people.

    As such, with work dogs or pets, I don't think it serves any purpose. In addition to the precautions that must be taken so the ears don't break or end up looking like hamburger, I think it makes dogs look mean which is the last perception we need to be giving of pits right now.

    If your pit is well liked in the community -- good with children and other dogs -- and it has cropped ears, your dog is probably helping the cause more than a natural pit with the same disposition. However, if your dog is an out of control nuisance that is borderline risky, cropped ears only make matters worse and increase the negative perception.

    Cropped ears make even the friendliest pit face look edgy.
     
  2. versatile

    versatile Banned

    when i see cropped ears i usually assume the dog had rabbit ears. crops look good but i want the dog as is.
     
  3. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    :no2: You spay and spray and they just keep coming back.
     
  4. Teal

    Teal Krypto Super Dog Premium Member

    I think cropping is a personal preference. I, personally, like having my dogs' ears to tug on lol but I think a lot of dogs look awesome with crops! The chart posted is a good guideline, and the link to the thread with different crop styles on actual dogs should give the OP a good idea of what might look good on his/her dog.
     
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  5. kayla baxter

    kayla baxter Big Dog

    I've seen pictures of litters of dane pups a day or two after being cropped, and they're playing like puppies, rough and all. Mine was rolling around on his back, bumping the block that his ears were glued to off the floor and walls within hours of coming home, with no negative effects. He was wrestling with my lab with stitches in his ears, and I never heard as much as a yelp. He screamed bloody murder when he was micro chipped, much much worse than anything post-ear crop, and guess what? He never aggressively defended the area where he was chipped either, nor did he develop any negative association with the vet.
     
  6. SBTlove

    SBTlove Good Dog


    This and like others have said it really is a matter of personal preference. I prefer the ears left natural but if I were to crop I like the show crop best. I've seen several very nice show crops. However That doesn't mean that is the right crop for you and your dog though.

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    On the contrary if you look around even here on our website you will see several APBT's and AMstaffs with good crops that look stunning. It doesn't make them look mean. For example Kady's Sako has a crop and its looks really good and he is just a stunning animal. There is nothing mean looking about that dog. Honestly I wasn't a fan of cropping at all until I saw saw Sako with his crop.

    Honestly I still prefer the natural ears but if I were showing an APBT or Amstaff I might actually consider cropping. It would just depend on how I felt at the time.
     
  7. hotelcali2202

    hotelcali2202 Little Dog


    oh wow...maybe my pup is a freak because she didn't bite me....oh wait, maybe ALL of the litters my breeder friends had where the pups were cropped were freaks as well....that about 50+ freaks that I know of O.O

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    and I thought hotchkiss was banned...

    its a pity that he's back. I really enjoyed his time away
     
  8. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    kinda been glancing at this thread for a while, casual reads not really paying much attention...but I felt I needed to post this time hehe

    there are functions to crops (if hotchkiss is not banned again yet...) I mean if I woulda gotten Goren's ears cropped he would not be dealing with the battle of ear issues he has when it rains, his ear is damaged and was when I got him, it is in a spot where it could be cropped but I did not do it because of cost and I really should have...he runs when he sees me with a cotton ball, his kinda cowers when I look in that ear after it rains, if its really bad he will yelp when I clean it, This is a dog that can deal with me cutting his quick because he busted a nail, was going full tilt after his neuter, lets puppies make him bleed without a peep. so yea there is a function for ear cropping in Goren's case! But I would not put him through that now unless a vet said it was worth it (my vet does not do them so I wouldn't be at one that would anyhow)
     
  9. Atheist

    Atheist Good Dog

    Personally I prefer natural ears on a pit bull, and I agree cropped ears tend to make the dog look meaner or more aggressive than natural ears. It is personal preference though. I am not saying it is cruel to crop a dogs ears but it seems to me it is something I wouldn't want to subject a dog to, for merely cosmetic purposes.
     
  10. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    I am firmly in the "they don't look mean" group. I like the look of a well done crop. It is distinguished and tidy. I didn't crop Rita because she was too old when I got her and I didn't crop Renee because my husband A) refused to pay for it and B) practically threw himself over her ears whenever I mentioned it.
     
  11. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    hehe Mjjean that is how Lee has been when I have mentioned it about Logan, he likes his ears, not that we have the cash for it but I was tempted, now that they are getting all perked I am glad I didn't, I am so tempted to tape them though to give him a full perk >.<
     
  12. Hotchkiss

    Hotchkiss Banned

    It simply comes down to this: do you give a shit about the breed or not? Are you a first time, one-time owner that will simply dump the carcass when your dog is done. or do you actually care about your dog and the breed?

    No one that fight pits or works pits crops ears. Yuppies and gangsters crop ears. Why don't owners crop a game dog's ears? Tell me you people that know.

    Why don't people that work pits crop ears, tell me.

    If you aren't a wanna-be yuppie or a mean-as-shit gangsta, why crop your pit's ears?
     
  13. hotelcali2202

    hotelcali2202 Little Dog

    because I love the look and it does better in the show ring.
    anyone who knows me can tell you I'm not a yuppie OR a gangster. I welcome you to take a look at my facebook page
     
  14. BarbaraClark

    BarbaraClark NuckingFuts

    I want to crop my pit bull's ears because it looks good and who the fuck are you to judge me for doing that? A lot of people that show their pit bulls crop their ears because sometimes their natural ears are uneven and lopsided, so they crop them to make them even.

    Don't tell me, are you against spaying and neutering too?
     
  15. SBTlove

    SBTlove Good Dog

    Because it seems in general an APBT or Amstaff with a good crop does better in the show ring than one that isn't cropped.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. But from what I understand that does seem to be the case.

    And please forgive me but I can't keep my mouth shut anymore:
    Hotchkiss we get it you are against cropping and that is great. No one is telling you to go out and get your dogs ears cropped, you are against it so don't do it. But what gives you the right to come in here and tell responsible APBT owners that just because they crop their dogs ears they are trash that don't give a shit about their dogs? Especially when this here is a group of people who are responsible owners and care greatly for their dogs.

    If you don't like the idea of Ear Cropping, that's great, don't do it. But there is no need to be rude, or accusing, or result to name calling. No one is telling you what to do with your dog, no one is judging you for what you do with your dog. So please don't come on here and tell others what to do with their dog and please don't judge others for the choices they make with their dogs. Especially when it is causing the dog no harm and the dog is in a loving happy home.
     
  16. Hotchkiss

    Hotchkiss Banned

    Crop your dog ears. Hell, I don't give a damn. On video, I've seen your dog run. I don't give a damn what you do with your dog. It's nuts about running. You're a little nuts about your pit. You dog isn't the one hooked to a chain 168 hours a week.

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    You're right. It gives me no right. It's not like I love my dogs anymore than someone else loves theirs. But, I think we talk about what is best for the breed here.
     
  17. BarbaraClark

    BarbaraClark NuckingFuts

    I don't even think Hotchkiss HAS any dogs.

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    How is not cropping what is best for the BREED? I can understand the logic in your head that makes you think it is better for a dog as an individual, but how so for the breed?
     
  18. Pink

    Pink GRCH Dog

    I agree 100%.

    Hotchkiss, PLENTY of people that work their dogs, crop ears. As did many old timers that matched their dogs. Where do you come up with this mess? Do not presume to judge people that crop their dogs ears. I am in no way a yuppie, or a gangster, yet my dogs ears are cropped. Why? I like the look.
     
  19. Hotchkiss

    Hotchkiss Banned

    I don't know. I just think it's better when you can raise two pits together and scold them when they fight and tough them when they're wrong than when you have to separate them and make them enemies in the long run.
     
  20. hotelcali2202

    hotelcali2202 Little Dog


    oh sweet jesus. here we go again
     
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