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Starting to do some research.

Discussion in 'Raw Food Diets' started by Derek1, May 23, 2017.

  1. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Just go for it Derek! Remember, some dogs' coats look worse for a month or so when the processed kibble works its way out of the system. Happened to one of my dogs. Clears up quickly and they look better than before.
     
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  2. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    Thanks wade, the woman from rawsome is gonna set me up this weekend with a few weeks of stuff for short money. Smaller amounts of different proteins to make sure he's good with it. Then I can get all kinds off stuff for around a buck a pound. That might not be the cheapest for everything but I can make it a one stop shop if I want.
     
  3. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Don't mix different types of meat at first. Chicken quarters only the first week.
     
  4. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    Right I understand, I just meant she's gonna give me a couple weeks worth of different proteins to work up to. Meaning she's gonna give me small amounts to start with.
     
  5. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    I'm probably over thinking it. I feel I just don't know enough about it in general.
     
  6. brindle

    brindle Little Dog

    Sounds like you have a good start lined up. Don't overthink all this, it's pretty simple. You have some useful info on this thread and there is plenty to read on line and in books. Feeding raw is one of the best things you can do for your dog, it really is a huge improvement over processed foods.

    I fed raw and kibble to my old dog for over 10 yrs and I know it helped her to live to age 14. My young dog is 2 yrs now and I introduced her to raw at age 9 weeks. She now eats mostly raw with some kibble. She is about 40 pounds and gets a raw chicken thigh or about 6 to 7 oz of raw beef.

    I buy most of my dog meat at the local grocery stores. Chicken is pretty cheap in the south, when I am in New England it is harder but it sounds like you found a good source. And you might check some local farmers markets on the weekends and see what you find. I was able to buy fresh lamb liver and kidney for a low price.

    Mostly I feed chicken since it is easy and cheap. I feed her the raw outside on the grass, I am not keen to feed raw chicken inside. I only have the one dog so I don't feed her in a crate at all. Outside has worked just fine for 12 yrs so far. They eat pretty fast in the rain or snow, LOL. If she gets a big raw beef bone to chew, she is tied to the tree in the fenced yard so she does not take it off and bury it in the flowers.

    I also add salmon oil or fish oil, some coconut oil, and some plain full fat yogurt to her diet. I do feed a small amount of kibble just because sometimes I am traveling and can't feed raw. I don't feed the raw and kibble at the same time, she'll get raw in the morning and a 1/3 cup of quality kibble at night. Besides the chicken thighs, I feed chicken necks and feet, turkey necks, beef when I can get it cheap, venison when I can get it, and lamb necks when I can get it cheap. I don't feed raw pork, even though trichinosis is uncommon, I wouldn't want to chance it. Also do not feed raw salmon, but cooked salmon is fine.

    Here is a link to a site that has a lot of good info, I read it yrs ago so have not looked at it recently but I am glad it is still there!

    http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/dietvalues.htm

    Feeding one dog on raw is pretty easy and when you try it, you'll find it's not that expensive and is simple enough, and it will improve your dog's health.
     
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  7. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Good post Brindle. My only comment is that the sources of meat should be varied. I feed no more than 30% chicken. Also, why do you mix raw and kibble? When you are out of town I understand but it appears from your post you mix the two even when in town. Commercial raw pork has been trichinosis free for years. It is wild hogs you have to worry about.
     
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  8. brindle

    brindle Little Dog

    TWadeJ, I do try to feed different meats but I am on a fixed (and low income) so I don't often have a lot of choices. I do use mostly chicken because it is cheap and easy to get. Grocery store chicken thighs go on sale regularly for 69 cents a pound… that's hard to beat.

    I buy cheap beef when I can get it, usually between $1 and $2 a pound, big roasts and I cut them into chunks for a few days meals and freeze. Turkey necks are often 50 cents a pound. I used to be able to get more venison, that is excellent meat for both people and dogs, but it is a very lean meat so for dogs you need to add more fat if you feed it a lot.

    I don't go to raw feeding groups nor am I on Facebook or in any groups. I feed my dog as best I can, and try to eat well myself too! Yes I do feed part kibble, it varies but I don't see kibble as being all that bad for them if you are giving a decent quality one. I always look at the first 5 ingredients and want to see at least 2 meats in the first 5. And the protein % in dry kibble not higher than 28%, those higher protein content ones are hard on a dog's kidneys.

    With all the modern farming methods and controls, I suppose raw pork is safe enough to feed but I have not done so. I had read about a resurgence of trichinosis some yrs ago, but I have not seen any more about it. Maybe I'll try it… I've fed cooked pork and other meats cooked, but of course no cooked bones.

    Feeding raw is good for the dogs, even if you just use it as a supplement to kibble. I just posted what I have done and what has worked for me and for my dogs. I have to say it is pretty easy to do, and feeding outside is simple with no clean up.

    TWadeJ do you add anything like oils? Any cooked veggies? Or yogurt? Eggs?
     
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  9. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    I feed sardines in oil, fish oil pills, and eggs with the shells. No veggies. They eat grass when they feel they need it. I also feed green tripe and swear by it.
     
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  10. brindle

    brindle Little Dog

    Ahhh yes, canned fish, I feed that too at times. I use canned Jack Mackerel, sardines occasionally, but aren't most sardines packed in soy bean oil? Soy is not that healthy for dogs, I get the ones in water.

    The salmon oil I buy is from this place, it is the wild caught Alaskan salmon and they have a gallon of it for $27.95 plus $10 shipping which is an excellent value --

    https://www.dakotalinesnares.com/products/alaskan-salmon-oil

    They will send it in the smaller bottles if you ask, and it keeps well. I put my opened bottle in the fridge and store the others in a cool dry place. It is much less that the expensive salmon oil sold in pet stores. I've fed it for about 8 or 9 yrs now.

    I do feed cooked veggies at times from my own meals. All of my dogs have enjoyed sweet potatoes and butternut squash to the point where they sit and whine for it after my dinner. So I save a bit when I have those as well as other scraps. I will give some cooked carrot, and cooked broccoli at times, but no onions.

    And I buy the frozen green tripe from Blue Ridge Beef when the local store has it, but I probably only feed it a couple times a month --

    http://www.blueridgebeef.com/products.html

    http://www.blueridgebeef.com/products-beef-ingredients-analysis.html#GT

    I also buy their frozen Venison, the Puppy Mix, and their Meaty bones. I like their frozen raw because it is mostly just raw meat and bone ground, no fillers. And it is reasonable in cost, a 2 pound frozen roll is about $4. I fed it to my old dog, she did very well on it.

    The plain yogurt I just buy from the store, same with the coconut oil. And I give some Apple Cider Vinegar at times as well, also from the store.
     
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  11. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Brindle - thank you for pointing out the issue about soybean oil. Normally, I get sardines packed in olive oil from Amazon. However, from time to time, when out, I buy from my local grocery store. I just checked and they are packed in soybean oil. Based on quick research it appears that since most soybean oils are genetically modified, it can be bad for dogs. I will quit buying the sardines with soybean oil.
     
  12. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    Thanks for all the great responses guys my freezer is all set up and I'm ready to get started.
     
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  13. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Thats great Derek! Your dog is going to love it and will likely be healthier. His teeth will improve. Much less shit to pick up as it is so brittle it literally falls apart when the mulching mower goes over it - free fertilizer for your yard.

    Keep us posted on how it goes.
     
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  14. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    IMG_0433.JPG And so it begins.
     
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  15. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    I fed him dehydrated raw at 4 am should I still make him fast for 24 hours before I start. Or do you think because it's still raw I can feed him tonight. Looking for suggestions.
     
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  16. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Feed him raw tonight. He will be fine.
     
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  17. TWadeJ

    TWadeJ Big Dog

    Chicken quarter tonight?
     
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  18. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    That's what I was hoping for.
     
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  19. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    They sell them unsalted and in spring water at Trader Joes. I'm not sure if Trader Joes is in Austin?
     
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  20. Derek1

    Derek1 Big Dog

    The woman at the place suggested I start with chicken necks to one or two days then add 1/4's. to help keep his stool firm and is easier bone to digest. I got a couple weeks worth of necks and 1/4's chicken and turkey. she also suggested one new protein a week to keep track of any problems.
     

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