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Starting PMR

Discussion in 'Raw Food Diets' started by summnd, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. summnd

    summnd Puppy

    I've tried this in a few other forums on other sites and I'm not getting anywhere :(

    I'm switching Kaine to PMR soon and I'm looking for people's feeding schedules as help in building my own..not really what time you feed or anything, but more along what you feed which days, and which day you fast, if you do.

    So far everyone is only telling me how to start PMR, which I don't need and don't want to read again Lol

    Thanks ahead
  2. TannerG

    TannerG Boss Member

    For me I fed bone in meals with organs two times a week and the rest of the days boneless meals. And I never did any fasting
  3. summnd

    summnd Puppy

  4. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

  5. TannerG

    TannerG Boss Member

    I was just gonna say the same thing on raw tips but realized it was you asking the same question somewhere else (I think) lol
  6. summnd

    summnd Puppy

    Lol, yes, I've asked a few places. Most people are just explaining the whole "start out with chicken quarters, work into..." and not really giving me any sort of schedule example. Thanks for the link.
  7. TannerG

    TannerG Boss Member

    Oh and I only fed once a day
  8. summnd

    summnd Puppy

    That's good to know..I've noticed a lot of people feeding 3 times a day. She's used to eating twice a day, but that can always change with her needs.
  9. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    I only feed once a day as well. Kibble or raw.
  10. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    I have Goren fast 1 day a week but it rotates, he fasted yesterday this week and will not fast again for at least a week. He gets a gorge meal one day a week normally its the day before a fast but sometimes its not. Goren will have some days where he is just not super hungry, those are his fast days for the most part. I have him fast a day because it seems to help keep his weight balanced and his metabolism lower (since he gets 3-6% a day its kinda important to not let that get any higher to me). I also only feed one meal a day, again its fro metabolism and it rotates, like today he got fed in the afternoon, sometimes he gets fed at dinner time sometimes not till 3am sometimes at 7am.
  11. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    i feed twice a day i mix up bone in and boneless doesnt matter which meal. honestly ther is no right or wrong schedule it is whwt works for you and your dog.
  12. dalvers63

    dalvers63 Good Dog

    We feed twice a day, bone in for one meal and basically boneless for the second (though my dogs require a bit of bone for every meal to not have loose stools).

    There really isn't a schedule of what to feed when. I looked at their requirements over a the course of a week and then do my best to get them that amount of meat and organ over the week. For example, my dogs get chicken quarters daily with some salmon oil, kelp, and maybe a green tripe frozen patty. For the second meal they get a ground beef mixture that contains bone and organs. A couple times a week they will get a whole sardine or two with one meal. I'll also occasionally throw in a raw egg. In the end it just depends on what I have in the freezer that day.
  13. WithHope

    WithHope Big Dog

    I put all my work into one condensed day a month if possible (no more than once every few weeks). My older two eat 1.5lbs/day and the youngest 1lb/day. So when I get 100-120lbs of food, I defrost it all, lay it all out, and I get to work. It takes me 3-4hrs, but I have found I prefer this method because it makes every feeding easy-peasy. Plus, God forbid something happen to me, like I go in the hospital or something, whoever is here to take care of the dogs should have no issues because all that needs done is to grab a bag.

    The feeding guidelines are 10% organ, but 5% of that liver and 5% of that other organs. So the first thing I put in each bag is 2.4oz of one for the big dogs' bags and 1.6 oz of it for the little dog's bag. Then I add in a boney meat, and I top it off to the appropriate oz with boneless muscle meats. The next set of three bags gets something different. So if I put liver, chicken, and pork in the first set, I might put kidney, duck, and hearts in the next set. I try to label each bag with what's exactly in it, but in the very least, each bag is marked either "liver" or "other", as I do make sure to alternate those daily. However, I also store them in the freezer in an order so all I (or whoever is feeding) has to do is pull the front three bags and feed them to the dogs. All three of our dogs now eat once a day, and they do really well on it. I was feeding twice a day mostly for the 5mo puppy, but she rarely ate one of her meals. When I switched to once a day, everyone eats all their food now. The older female even quit being picky with liver.

    Is it a lot of work? Yes, for 3-4hrs every few weeks, it's a TON of work, but then every day thereafter is super simple, and I'm assured every day they are getting a variety in their diet without having to think about "Did I feed them beef or duck yesterday? Did they get enough organs this week?" etc. Here's yesterday's. I got 3.5wks out of this set. Chicken quarters, Turkey, Turkey Organs, Duck, Duck Organs, Pork Roast (cut up), Chicken Gizzards and Hearts, Beef Liver, Beef Kidney, Ground Green Tripe with Spleen, and Beef Lung. That with the salmon they get once a week will take us through until November 28th. From now til then, I'll be stocking back up on sale bulk meats as I find them, which will just stay in the freezer until the next big portion out day for me.




  14. WithHope

    WithHope Big Dog

    Oh, and because I'm totally OCD, the 7th day a week is their salmon day. Salmon days get 2.5% liver and 2.5% other organs. That way, I know they really are getting even amounts. LOL, you do NOT have to be so exact, but when I made the switch to PMR, I was nervous about effing up their nutrition, so being so anal about it gives me some peace of mind.
  15. Purpledomino

    Purpledomino Good Dog

    I feed twice a day. I take out separated (and bagged) portions to thaw in my spare refrigerator for the next couple days worth, and just keep a mental note at what they have had to mix up their rotation. I also look at dog poop way more than anyone should, and feed accordingly. I never measure anything, eye-ball it all out to be as close to the 80/10/10 ratio as I can, do lots of variety, and watch my dogs body condition always and just go from there.

    The best thing I ever did was join in on some raw feeder buying groups in my area, and I put in meat, bone and organ orders from them. I will get an order every 5-6 weeks, fill my freezer and get amazing deals as well as obscure items not available in stores. Check out social media sites for raw feeder groups, they are out there and VERY helpful and cost efficient if you can find them!
  16. summnd

    summnd Puppy

    Thanks a lot to all of you! I picked up a bit and stocked my freezer. She's going to start PMR on the 15th because I predict her last bag of food will run out the 15th-16th. I'm a control freak and planned to form some sort of schedule but when I went to buy the meat & stuff today and then brought it home to bag/label/freeze, I found myself just throwing things into Ziplock baggies and going "that looks like her size meal."
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  17. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    My first batch was nicely bagged and labeled. Then I realized it took a TON of work. Now I bag everything in a gallon ziplock of as much as I can fit in a single bag or as much as I'm willing to thaw at once in a single bag.

    I also feed once daily as other members do.
  18. Joey&Zoey

    Joey&Zoey Good Dog

    I like to feed as much variety in one meal as possible. I can feed up to four different proteins with no issue, but you have to gradually start off to see how well your dog can handle the countless varieties that you can feed per meal. My dog can handle bone in meals daily as well, but I usually don't feed heavy bone in cuts/portions daily. When I do, I generally feed a piece of organ that day as well. The following day after a heavy bone in meal is always a boneless meal. I like to balance out more meat vs bone no matter what. I also feed a whole egg one day and the next day, a whole sardine. I rotate those two every other day. She is fed a tbsp of raw coconut oil daily as well.

    My dog eats once a day and once every two weeks, I will fast her the following day after a "gorge" meal (where she can eat up to 2-3x her normal amount of feed.)

    I do bag all my stuff, stuffing each bag with as much meat as I can fit in there as well. I don't like to mix up the meats when I bag them though, I like to keep livers in one bag, boneless beef in one bag etc.
  19. summnd

    summnd Puppy

    I'm starting her on chicken drum sticks and boneless/skinless chicken breast, simply because chicken is the recommended starter, and of all the chicken products those seemed most like "Kaine," if that makes sense. Though I don't think I'll have a problem introducing new things. She'll eat what I hand her. She eats kibble twice a day but I'm going to feed her PMR once a day. I plan to feed at midnight every night just because either SO or I is always home 12am-4am. Anywhere between 4am and midnight, there's no telling where we'll be. That's also an hour or two after she starts settling down but still a few hours before she sleeps.
    She's always had rather loose stool, even on straight dry kibble and no matter which kibble she was on, but her vet says it's not a worry and she's fine in every other way. I'm wondering if I should feed her a higher percent of bone-in meals because of that?
  20. Joey&Zoey

    Joey&Zoey Good Dog

    Generally, dogs who are in the transition phase from kibble to raw will have loose stools the first week or so (detoxification from the kibble). So, it is even more crucial to start off with heavier bone in portions and be careful not to overfeed as well. Either turkey or chicken backs are excellent for heavy in bone or turkey necks.

    As for the set time to feed, it's not advised to feed each meal at the same precise time daily, due to the likelihood of "hunger pukes". Where the dog's digestive system will begin to anticipate the upcoming meal by the internal clock and will produce extra acid buildup and cause the dog to vomit yellow bile.

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