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Starting a Raw Diet

Discussion in 'Raw Food Diets' started by habdul, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    Where do I start. My Budget is 30-60 a month. Angel turns 1 next month and weighs about 40-50 pounds. I also have a pup coming in March which is why I'd like to be a but experienced by then. I've been told about this site Raw Fed Dogs - Natural Prey Model Rawfeeding Diet
     
  2. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    The site helped somewhat but I just need to be led in the right direction for like starter meals. From now til when she turns 1, I'll be going around looking for a butcher or grocery store butcher to buy in bulk
     
  3. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Congrats on your decision! Let us know if you have any questions.
     
  4. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    I sure do. What are some good raw foods to start out with? Should I feed her a complete raw meal or mix it in with her kibble. How do I make sure I am feeding a raw balanced diet.
     
  5. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Start with chicken quarters. It's bland and bone in so it will help her adjust. Give her a few days to a week or however long it takes for her stool to firm up, then introduce another protein (keep bone in every meal). Turkey or pork is a good 2nd protein.

    Look to balance over time. Say a week. Every week you should have fed a full balanced meal total.

    BUT it's important to maintain the phosphorus:calcium balance so bones should be included in most, if not all meals. If there's no bone in a meal, the phosphorus needs it and will get it elsewhere (the dog's bones).

    I would feed her the last of her kibble, skip a meal or 2, then switch cold turkey to raw. Most raw feeders support cold turkey switching rather than transitioning as one would do between kibbles.
     
  6. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    SAMPLE MENU * STARTING OUT
    For a 15kg adult dog at 2% - 15,000g x 0.02 = 300g of food per day
    [TABLE="width: 472, align: center"]
    [TR]
    [TD]
    [/TD]
    [TD]Morning
    [/TD]
    [TD]Evening
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 1
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g bone-in chicken breast
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g bone-in chicken breast
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 2
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g chicken thigh & breast meat
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g chicken thigh & breast meat
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 3-4
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g small chicken quarter with beef trim
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g small chicken quarter with beef trim
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 5-6
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g chicken wing & beef trim
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g chicken wing & beef trim
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="colspan: 3"]Increase food to 2.5% - 15,000g x 0.025 = 375g of food per day
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 7-8
    [/TD]
    [TD]225g small chicken quarter with pork meat
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g small chicken quarter with pork meat
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 9-10
    [/TD]
    [TD]225g pork ribs with beef trim plus occasional raw egg
    [/TD]
    [TD]150g pork ribs with beef trim
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 11-12
    [/TD]
    [TD]275g pork ribs with beef trim and tiny piece beef liver
    [/TD]
    [TD]100g chicken wing & breast meat
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 13-14
    [/TD]
    [TD]310g pork ribs with beef trim and 15g beef liver
    [/TD]
    [TD]Alternate 50g small chicken breast with ribs or whole egg
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 15-16
    [/TD]
    [TD]285g pork ribs with beef trim 25g kidney & 15g beef liver
    [/TD]
    [TD]Alternate 50g small chicken breast with ribs or whole egg
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 17-18
    [/TD]
    [TD]335g chicken quarter, 25g beef heart & 15g beef liver
    [/TD]
    [TD]Training treats (e.g. slow baked organ or meat slices)
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Week 19-20
    [/TD]
    [TD]295g chicken quarter, 50g heart, 15g kidney & 15g liver
    [/TD]
    [TD]Training treats (e.g. slow baked organ or meat slices)
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  7. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    I know this is for a 15kg dog, but is this a good sample menu. Ofcourse I would add maybe a little more food or something?
     
  8. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    If you're on Facebook, join as many different groups as you can. There are a lot of different opinions on feeding raw and I swear most of the time its similar to dog training in that the only thing two raw feeders can agree on is that the third is doing it wrong! Lol

    Except for my puppy, that was weaned onto raw right off of milk, I never switched cold turkey. I introduced a raw meal here and there to see how they would do before shocking their systems with a total diet change. I think the only thing most people agree on is keeping it simple at first. My dogs still can't have skin on chicken. It gives them the runs. So does too much organ in one meal. You can worry about balance later, just make sure your dogs poops are good.
     
  9. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    I wouldn't jump into beef like that suggests. I would transition to a 2nd meat like turkey or pork, then transition to red meat like beef. If you want to jump into beef. That's your own prerogative but you may end up with some serious diarrhea doing too much too quickly.

    Wings are generally pretty expensive so I stay away from them completely unless I'm processing an entire chicken.

    The timeline is going to vary depending on your dog. You don't need to increase the percentage unless your dog is dropping weight or is too thin.

    I don't know the conversion from kg to oz.
     
  10. Cofla

    Cofla Big Dog

  11. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

  12. Cofla

    Cofla Big Dog

    I don't remember the formula either, I just go to one of the multiple sites of conversion, put my number (in either direction) in the result pops out immediately.

    On the other hand, I think that the OP is in Turkey, and over there is Metric, so for himself he can just stay in Metric all the way.


    Eddy
     
  13. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    I do everything from my phone. It's a huge pain in the ass to switch from the forum to the browser repeatedly.

    I know he needs metric but I can't help him with percentages without converting to English. But again, I'm not going to do that because of the work involved.
     
  14. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    Thank Guys, anymore questions I'll be right back here lol
     
  15. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    So you're saying for the first week of Angel Raw Diet I should just feed chicken quarters still her stool becomes solid.
     
  16. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    How does 40lbs of Chicken Quarters for for $26 and chicken necks for $18 sound?
     
  17. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    Yep. Chicken is one of the blandest meats for our dogs. It's usually easiest for the dog to get used to the new diet.

    That sounds great! I never pay over $1 per pound for chicken so that sounds like some good prices. Chicken necks are sometimes too small for larger dogs so you may end up with a gulper if you feed small pieces like that.
     
  18. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    What do you guys think about this deep freezer?IGLOO 3.5 cu. ft. Chest Freezer in White-FRF434 - The Home Depot
     
  19. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    That looks good.

    The best advice I can give when it comes to choosing a freezer is to get the biggest freezer you can afford and have space for. I promise, you won't wish you had a smaller one. But you will always wish you had a bigger freezer/additional freezer.

    I have a 7.2 cu.ft. Chest freezer and I can fit about 200-250 lbs in it. I wish I had more space.
     
  20. habdul

    habdul Little Dog

    Right I was just having this conversation with my roommates today about buying a big deep freezer.
     

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