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So I did hte DNA test

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by HappyPuppy, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. HappyPuppy

    HappyPuppy Good Dog

    I did not submit a picture in case they would use that to "guess" in any way. I went in planning to be openminded about the results knowing that Ruby is a rescue mix that looks very pit bullesque (to me) and that pit bull is not in their "38 breed profiles".
    So the "Primary" tier was blank (50% or greater breed)
    Secondary tier: Bulldog
    Third tier: Boxer (I thought she used her 'hands' a lot! LOL)
    Not sure what it all really means as there are obviously some other things in there that didn't show up. Her legs are pretty short to show any boxer influence. (At least there isn't poodle!) She does have an underbite and often has what I think looks like a bulldog 'stance' ... she's certainly not overly 'bully' tho. She's about 47lbs and 19 3/4in tall.
    This was just a fun but nagging curiosity and frustration that I couldn't identify anything obvious in her for mixiness. Doesn't really tell me anything I guess except she a 'bulldog' which is fine by me! Love ya girl.
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  2. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    she's beautiful:)
     
  3. HappyPuppy

    HappyPuppy Good Dog

    Oops - forgot to add the explanation of their analysis. Seems to leave some room for interpretation.

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  4. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    We use one at my Vet Hospital that recognizes 154 breeds. It is the Wisdom Panlel

    www.wisdompanel.com
     
  5. maryellen

    maryellen Good Dog

    i am waiting till december to retest rufus and sonny as they will have over 115 breeds by then..
     
  6. screamin'eagle

    screamin'eagle Good Dog

    She is a good looking dog. Love her and treat her like a member of the family.

    As for the test...I am by no means an expert, but I've always heard that DNA testing can identify the parentage of your dog, but couldn't link dogs to a certain breed. That would be useful if a breeder told you that dog "a" was from parents "A", but they were infact from a different breeding. Recent technology may have advanced past this...like I said I'm no expert. I did look at their website though, and I am iffy on their capabilities. Here's a quote,
    "Canine Heritage™ Breed Test only works for the above breeds that have been validated. If your pet’s breed composition contains non-validated breed(s) the test may identify breed(s) earlier in your dog’s ancestry. This may cause identification of apparent unlikely breeds for your pet’s composition."
    In other words if you had an APBT mix, or American staffordshire terrier mix your results would be inconclusive. They really couldn't tell you anything. The other question that I have is the generalization of the word bulldog. I guess they mean English Bulldog...so add American Bulldog, etc to the list of breeds commonly mistaken for the APBT that would yield inconclusive results. Also to get a primary match one of the parents would have had to have been a pure bred dog. If not...there's nothing this company can provide. In other words, of your pet was indeed mixed with APBT, AST, AMBUlldog, Cane Corso, Presa Canerio, Dogo Argentino, (catch my drift) that test would then be not worth much.

    Now $65 is not too steep, but you are pretty much in the same boat as before using this companys service.
     
  7. screamin'eagle

    screamin'eagle Good Dog

    Having had some experience with this in the workplace...what would you say is the reliability of this test. I pose this because although they have 154 breeds...all are AKC recognized breeds. No American Pitbull Terrier. In fact, when I searched for APBT the told me that the AKC Bull Terrier was commonly called the APBT (B.S!.) here's the link...
    http://www.wisdompanel.com/breed_characteristics/breed_library/breed_details.aspx?BreedID=39

    Now they do also associate the ABPT with Amstaff. I'll buy that b/c a dog can be dual registered as both breeds depending on the registry, but will that help much if I was paying money for a definitive answer? I don't know.

    http://www.wisdompanel.com/breed_characteristics/breed_library/breed_details.aspx?BreedID=9
     
  8. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    I saw that as well. But The bull Terrier and the Staffie, Amstaff, APBT all go back and intertwine. The Bull Terrier was created in the mid 1800.

    breed of dog developed in 19th-century England from the bulldog, the white English terrier (a breed now extinct), and the Dalmatian; other breeds including the foxhound, and greyhound may also have been incorporated.

    I still have my doubts on DNA testing. But my point is that the OP test only test 38 dogs. ANd the Wisdom Panel test 150. I asked my Vet if we could test a dog that we knew the 2 parents and see if the test came back correct. And I know that it only recognizes AKC. We just started having it at my clinic and we will see what happens.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2007
  9. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    Well, whatever she is, she sure is a beauty!
     
  10. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    It does not matter what she is all that matters is the love and loyality she gives you. DO right by her and she will do right by you.
     
  11. tat2stuff

    tat2stuff Good Dog

    yup, I agree :grin:
     
  12. DieselDawg

    DieselDawg Good Dog

    Hey, what's wrong with a bit of Poodle?
     
  13. HappyPuppy

    HappyPuppy Good Dog

    Hee hee. Nothin' ... really. Just not my fav. And I didn't want my tomboy to be part poodle - LOL - cuz there is little that's dainty about her! My aunt has poodles and they're pretty cool. :)
     
  14. She looks APBT and you want her to be APBT. So, she is APBT in your eyes.

    She is a beautiful dog and sure looks APBT, to me. {As if I am some kind of expert.}

    Mule
     

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