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Should the American Bully be accepted into the AKC?

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by CallSignOWL, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    Keep it civil and no breed bashing! Give reasons why or why not and and any changes you would make to the standards. Please avoid one-word answers.

    Im interested in your thoughts! :cool:

    Ill start with saying yes. I think it will help give recognition to the breed, differentiating it from APBTs, and hopefully encourage people to stop calling them pit bull terriers. I think that the breed standards will be more set and not as fluid (such as the addition of the pocket, XL and Extreme bullies in the ABKC; It almost seems they just make up standards willy-nilly to fit whatever the fad is at the time). If they are accepted, I would like the standard changed to bar sway-backed, smooshed faced, outward pointing elbow messes from competing/winning, and include something like this:

  2. Ali132

    Ali132 Good Dog

    APBT's aren't even accepted, they arent going to accept Am.bullies.
    Not to mention there are too many classes of the Am.bullies I doubt AKC would ever want to get involved.

    American bullies are shown so I'm not sure why you think the AKC will make people stop thinking they are pit bulls.
    My mutt gets called a pit bull all the time, it's not going to change peoples thoughts of a pit bull being anything with a big head and short fur.
  3. bringbackup

    bringbackup Big Dog

    The standard (which isn't much of a standard at all) is too broad. Until they narrow it down and get a consistent look among all American Bully bloodlines, they won't be touched by the AKC. And maybe not even then...there are plenty of breeds not recognized by the AKC that hold more purpose and more ancestry then seen with American Bullies.
  4. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    how would you narrow down the standard?
  5. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Nope. Nothing against the American Bully. But they really aren't a breed yet. A lot of them still mutts them self. They are still very new and have way too many different classes to it.
  6. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    I don't understand why people would want their breed recognized by the AKC. The AKC sucks. the UKC is a lot more sport-oriented and don't seem to like their showdogs as obese. The bully breed should get their shit together and try for UKC recognition, not AKC. JMO.

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  7. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    that is perfectly valid too!
  8. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    You all mention the 'disorganization' of the AmBully breed.

    How would you prefer the breed be organized? Breedings, standards, classifications, etc?
  9. Ali132

    Ali132 Good Dog

    I think just not so many classes.
    There are so many and so many variations of each class.
    I think if they just had Classic Am.bullies then it would be a diff story.
  10. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    They should reduce the classes to either standard only or standard and pocket only (think standard and mini bullterriers). No other breed has so many different "standards" as the American Bully. And work on all the absurd conformation flaws. Right now there are so few decent breeders, NO reputable registry would accept them.

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  11. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    I agree. Limiting the classes will go along way to standardization of the breed. Standard and Pocket are my top 2 as well.

    Would you keep the "classic" class? To me they just look like big headed APBTs, and are neither one nor the other.
  12. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    No. having three classes is absurd. As much as I like classics (they are my favorite type of bully) I think they should stick to one or two.

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  13. G-X

    G-X Big Dog

    if they can have a definitive standard and a lot more bullies that conform why not. as of right now it seems not one could conform to a definitive breed standard. it seems only a hand full could fit within a resonable standard.
  14. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    how would you define the standard?
  15. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Isn't Pinks Torque a Classic American Bully? I could be wrong. I really don't know much about the different classes. However, I do think Torque should be a perfect example of what an American Bully SHOULD look like. I would Own a dog that looks like him and I normally don't like American Bullies.
  16. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    Considering the way the AKC has addressed breed structure/temperament issues in the past (or should I say, hasn't), I'd rather see the UKC recognize them.

    And as far as the standard being too broad for registry... uhm lemme dig up a few UKC recognized breed standards.
    United Kennel Club: Epagneul Picard
    United Kennel Club: Shikoku
    United Kennel Club: Podenco Canario

    Cliff, why not three? Poodles have 3 sizes. Even then if we were to only choose two, shouldn't it be Standard and Classic? Not offering classic would make it so that the more working/sports style bodied bullies would be incorrect as far as the standard goes. (Think of that boy I posted who's a Police K-9, he would be "incorrect")

    Yes Ambullies are a breed, by the definition of breed. Every breed starts as a mutt or another breed.

    Amongst the smaller handful of responsible bully breeders they've been quite consistent.

    AND I think it would help (not cure) the confusion of differentiating American Bullies from American Pit Bull Terriers. Which we could REALLY use right now.
  17. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    Are you involved in the Ambully community at all? Because there's plenty. King Kamali being a prime example.
  18. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Appletini too
  19. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    She's an adorable little buggar
  20. CallSignOWL

    CallSignOWL Good Dog

    good post!

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