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Shelters "Guessing" Breeds.

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by SoCalPitGal, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. AmberH

    AmberH Good Dog Premium Member

    Since the dog is obviously a mix, the other breed(s) gave it the black coat. No one is saying the dog is purebred. I think it is a beagle mix, maybe with some Labrador mixed in. The head on that dog screams beagle to me. From what I was told about the tri color pattern, both parents need to have it for it to be expressed on a puppy.
     
  2. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    Most mixes are NOT going to be from parents that fit standard. Most are going to be from BYB purebreds that hardly look the case.

    Besides... that makes no sense... the other mix could be what's giving the off look? I'd wonder were those ears would come from then.

    Mixes don't have to look exactly like one of the mixes put into play.

    Here's my boy
    He's a German Shepherd/Labrador Retriever mix.

    If we're going to go off desired looks, his head is thinner than a Lab's but thicker than a GSD's.
    His body style is GSD but the shape is more labish. He's a color not common in either, but brought out by the mix of the genes from both breeds.
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    That's just one example, a mix will come out however it's genes choose. We shouldn't be focusing on "this looks nothing like breed *should*" and more on "It could resemble this breed, however, we can't really know and sometimes two mixes can come out resembling a different breed. Heck, they could even have 10 breeds in their background."
     
  3. GoingPostal

    GoingPostal Good Dog

    The dog is a MIX, not a purebred and black/tan coloration is recessive, meaning if both the dogs parents don't carry it, none of the puppies will be tri. You're saying if a piebald mostly white beagle with crappy byb conformation comes into a shelter, they better not list it as one since it's not the "common" color and doesn't look like a show dog?
     
  4. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    one of the dogs that i did put to sleep was a 1,200 dollar dog he was human aggressive a ambully, i guess it's wrong to assume all of them must have been expensive, but around here a lot of dogs not just ambullys are sold for an obscene amount of money, i guess that's why i just assume, at the vets office a lady came in with a dog whose breed according to her was a "teddy bear dog" she got it from a petstore 2,000 dollars for a mutt, that probably came from a puppymill or something.
    The majority of the dogs i've seen the owners paid way more than the dog is worth, in my opinion. But it's still wrong to assume if i don't KNOW.
     
  5. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    Yup, we've got in a Giant Schnauzer before, I'd imagine that was a pretty penny. I'm just OCD about technicalities and don't like gross assumptions. xD Nothing personal
     
  6. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    its all good i understand!
     
  7. sesophie2011

    sesophie2011 Puppy

    I do know that State Farm and Nationwide renters insurance covers Pits, Rotts and etc..



     
  8. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Hers one. Lets say Snow stumbles into a Shelter and you are going to play to be the person to 'Guess' her breed. I've said I believe she is an American Bulldog mix. But lets leave that Option out because only in certain poses do you actually see it. I'm posting several different pictures and I want you to tell me based on 'standard' and 'look a likes' you think she is.

    (This is just for fun so I'll accept MUTT! because thats def what she is LOL!!)

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    I want you to Guess what Breeds are in her make up. The Fun part is after talking to my sister one day I know some of the breeds her mother was. Just not who exactly the father was... So lets see what we get and then I'll update and let you know. Oh BTW here is her brother too:

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  9. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    LP,,,,,,,,,,,,,my guess is..................American Bulldog.......X.................?
     
  10. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    And....................what would this be?
    Just out of curiosity............
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  11. AmberH

    AmberH Good Dog Premium Member

    Snow's borther looks really houndy and Labby.

    I posted this picture in the "Known Mixes" thread but I'll put it here too.

    This is my dog DJ. He was an Alaskan Malamute X Collie cross. His mother looked like an average gray Mal and his dad was a tri color Collie.
    If he came into the shelter what would you call him? I've heard many thoughts on his breed but there are only two correct answers as stated above. I've heard Labrador and Chow most often.

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  12. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Not knowing his breed I'd say a Border Collie mix. 0o; Which still isn't right. wow.
     
  13. AmberH

    AmberH Good Dog Premium Member

    DJ was a big boy topping out at 80 pounds.
     
  14. PitBerry

    PitBerry Puppy

    I volunteered at my county shelter. I asked why are some dogs labelled certain breeds when they don't even resemble the breed. They said that the AC officers are the ones who label them upon pick-up.

    But it bugs me so much! They called a petite Boxer a Pit Bull once. They even called a BLACK DOG a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever! The NSDTR standard color is red (and maybe varient shades) with white on paws and chest! Looked nothing like it... And many more cases of this. They won't even change the label if more than one person points it out! :(
     
  15. hundchen

    hundchen Puppy

    Our shelter is pretty reasonable with their mix guesses, the dogs at least look like they could have that breed or breeds in them and the shelter always uses the word mix after any guess. They also state they are just going by the dog's appearance and that it is just a guess (ex. 'by appearance husky mix'). If a dog is surrendered as a certain breed or mix, they use that. The shelter across the river from us is even better, they are comfortable with using broad terms like small terrier mix, hound mix, etc. for certain dogs. They do use the generic 'pit bull' mix term though, which I can see why. ETA* IMO with an unknown mix I think the broader the terms used, the better, and that the shelter should be very open that any guess, is just a guess. Which I think most adopters realize it is just guess anyway.
     
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  16. BulletsMom

    BulletsMom Little Dog

    I agree with this. We all know that Pit Bull type dogs are not for the average owner. The last thing the shelters want is to have a dog adopted only to have it returned with a label of "aggressive" because it shows some (perfectly normal for the breed) DA.

    That being said, the shelters I have dealt with are pretty good with their guesses. If they really don't know they'll say something like "looks like she could be a Lab cross of some sort". So that gives you an idea but doesn't commit to saying it IS a certain breed.
     
  17. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    My friend and I thought that this guy that's at the shelter I photograph dogs at:

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    Would be a good one to do a "Guess the breed" with.. photograph one side of his face, then the other. Side with the ear people would probably guess Hound mix (which he is), side with the cropped ear (from an accident), people would most likely guess Pit Bull mix.
     
  18. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    ^ He is a beautiful dog! Do they know the definite mix?
     
  19. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    I'm leaning towards shelters should identify breeds/mixes when dogs closely resemble those breeds. When it is a compelte toss up, they should go with more general terms like the shelter hundchen referenced. Example of what I mean.

    Our shelter labeled this dog a Beagle mix. I would call that a pretty darn good bet.
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    This dog was labeled as a Doxie mix. Another pretty darn good bet and OK!
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    This dog is labeled a Chihuahua mix. Again, logical guess!
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    Now, examples of situations where more general terms should be applied.

    This dog - labeled a Bulldog/Shepherd. I like that it's general and basically the label is saying that this dog doesn't resemble one specific breed. But it does give you some idea of her physical appearance.
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    Another example, this dog is labeled a Spaniel/herding breed mix (shelter used Border Collie on PF, but put herding breed mix in description).
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  20. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    This an intense and beautiful picture
     

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