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Science Diet??

Discussion in 'Health & Nutritional Care' started by Stephi4, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. Stephi4

    Stephi4 Puppy

    Is Science Diet really bad for dogs? Blu came home with the same food she was eating at the shelters. I notice she has bowel movement 6 times a day.. I think that is unusual in dogs.. But she is 13 months old.. I have only had her for a week..Any advice would be appreciated.. I am open to options. Of course vet says science diet, but sometimes Vets are in it for the money...
     
  2. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    Yes, Science Diet is bad. And not all vets who sell it are in it for the money, many vets just don't know about nutrition. Many vets are taught a very short nutrition class which is sponsored by Hills (who makes Science Diet) and so they are taught that SD is good. 6 BMs a day is a lot.
     
  3. Stephi4

    Stephi4 Puppy

    THANK YOU CLIFFDOG ! i really thought I was that naive. I knew it was a lot but people i work with were telling me it was normal.. :no2: mmm time to seek other alliterative dog food...
     
  4. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    yep as Cliff said, its bad...I feed my puppy Taste of the Wild, you can get it at tractor supply, and as a 4 month old he poops on average only 2 times a day. Also its grain free and all life stages, meaning less allergens to worry about and fillers, AND you don't have to worry about swapping food ever, yea you might change up the flavor to a different formula but you wont have to buy senior food or anything like that.
     
  5. mlewis

    mlewis Puppy

    Hammer's been on Purina One Large Breed Puppy formula since the day we brought him home and has done very well. Two BM's a day is pretty normal.....Six is NOT. Generally when a dog is going that often, the food is full of filler (stuff the dog can't digest) therefore it is passed through as waste. It's like Dexatrim to humans......appetite is satisfied but enough good stuff hasn't been absorbed.
     
  6. SweetPerks24

    SweetPerks24 Big Dog

    6 times a day is ALOT. lol Mine only go maybe twice, if not once a day. (poo that is)

    Both mine are on Iams proactive puppy, large breed formula. It's a 3 starish rated food, for a decent price, and they've been great on it since we got them. No issues at all. In the next few months, matter of fact, they'll be switching to Iams Simple and Natural, which is an even higher rated food, still very affordable too though. (not Iams healthy naturals....different line)

    Great website listed below. :)

    Dry Dog Food Reviews | Dog Food Advisor
     
  7. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    You have received some good advice already.However for those who fed large breed you don't need large bed it is not appropriate for this breed they are medium dogs.a regular formula would be better.
     
  8. SweetPerks24

    SweetPerks24 Big Dog

    They (Iams) have their large breed formula listed for dogs that will be 50+ lbs when full grown. My 11 month old is already past that mark, and our 5 month old is pretty darn close to it already, so the Iams one at least seems to fit with the large breed. Not sure what the specifications are for other brands' large breed though.
     
  9. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    That isn't where you should look. Check the calcium/phosphate ratios. Actual large breeds not based on weight need higher ratios for their skeletal structure then medium skeletal dogs.I don't know why they market that formula based off weight but just check the ratio. It should be something like 1to1 but may be a tiny but over.I'll look it up later for you when I get my computer out.
     
  10. SweetPerks24

    SweetPerks24 Big Dog

    I didn't realize that. I was just going by what the weight listed was. I'll poke around online today too. Seems like they've been Ok on it so far, and we are switching to "grown-up" food in the next few months anyways, but it would still be good info to know about. I think the adult food we're looking at is just one formula, so no large breed or anything like that.
     
  11. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    Its hard to not go by what they list and not to know about the ratios. My parents pit bull mix started on large breed but long ago was switched to regular formula.it bugs me mfg. Put weight only it is misleading
     
  12. BarbaraClark

    BarbaraClark NuckingFuts

    WOW! I didn't know Science Diet was bad either...our old dog, Teddy, had diabetes and they had my mother feed him that...

    Sometimes I hate veterinarians.
     
  13. bearxfoo

    bearxfoo Big Dog

    The general rule of thumb is, if you can buy it at a supermarket where people food is sold, it's probably not that great of dog food.

    The overall issue lies with the fact that "big name" companies tend to use shitty resources in their foods. Grain, number one, is something a dog can't even digest, and is usually the main food source for it. The second is that their protein sources are usually garbage.

    I use http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/ to look at dog food and make decisions. It's really useful. If you notice, foods like Beneful, Diamond, Eukanuba, Science Diet, Iams, Kibbles N' Bits, etc are all "one star foods", with basic reviews saying most of the shit in it is useless.

    There are really good quality dog foods on the market that are cheap. I've been feeding Taste of the Wild which is about $40ish for a 30lbs bag, and that last us a great while (about a month). I recently switched to Acana and it's about the same price.

    I know people say "well my dog has been on xx and has been fine their whole lives", well, yeah, they have been. But think about it in terms of people: most of us (including myself) probably eat like crap. We eat processed garbage, too much sugar, fat, etc, but in general, we are (usually) all "fine". I'm alive, I function, I put shit in my stomach to continue to survive, etc. But if I ate *a lot better*, how much better would I function or feel? Probably a lot, and we all know its true.

    But yup, just some food for thought (no pun intended :P).
     
  14. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    Also I would like to mention that while Science Diet is bad a lot of vets back it because when a cat or dog has a health problem (like recurring UTIs) and they feed PRESCRIPTION Diet for that problem (which is a special diet to help treat health issues) it works great. But as a regular staple diet, Hills is no good.
     
  15. Prophecy

    Prophecy Good Dog

    I second this. Science diet isn't the best matenance food for the average ''healthy'' pet,but it can help to treat a medical issue like urinary,kidney,or liver issues that need a very specialised diet.Now I have known dogs to do ok on it,but it is not one I would reccommend.
     
  16. Stephi4

    Stephi4 Puppy

    ;) thank you everyone for all the advice and feedback.. Thanks for the website too!!!
     
  17. Staxamillion

    Staxamillion Puppy

    Science diet did that with our 10 month old we went through a lot of testing at the vet. Finally found a chuck and dons with pit bull friendly workers and recommend Taste of Wild works like a charm!
     
  18. doone

    doone Banned

    Science suggest us diet foods for remain fit and healthy so we remain healthy as eating diets foods so dog health became remain fit if they eat diet foods.
     
  19. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    Pardon?
     
  20. mlewis

    mlewis Puppy

    lol

    I don't speak whatever that language is either, but I believe he's saying that it stands to reason that science tells us that we should eat diet food to remain healthy, therefore we should feed our dogs diet food in order to keep THEM healthy......

    Or maybe it's just a full moon.......
     

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