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Revisiting dog foods

Discussion in 'Health & Nutritional Care' started by Kit, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    I thought I found a good food to feed, then the price jumped nearly $10/bag.
    So I went back thru my list and have it narrowed down to 3.
    Frankie has to be on a grain free kibble, or her ears/eye/nose turn bright red. (she's 7 1/2)
    Rikki can eat anything, she's 4
    We were told Marshall has grain allergies, but haven't fed him food with grain to know for sure, he's 11. He can't have chicken, because he gets CBD oil and it doesn't work well with chicken.
    Rosie gets her own, since she needs low protein/phosphorus for kidney issues (she's 14)

    Food 1:
    Deboned salmon, salmon meal, chicken meal, dried peas, tapioca starch, dried potatoes, flaxseed, potato protein, tomato pomace, canola oil, natural flavors, dried egg product, salt, dried chicory root, dried carrots, dried spinach, dried sweet potato, dried pumpkin, dried blueberries, vitamins....

    Food 2: Salmon meal, field pea, chickpeas, lentils, tapioca starch, canola oil, catfish meal, herring meal, carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress, spinach, chicken far, natural flavor, chicken cartilage, calcium carbonate, lecithin, DI-Methionine, kelp meal, salt, apple, pumpkin meal....

    Food 3:
    Salmon, Menhaden fish meal, sweet potato, peas, canola oil, dehydrated alfalfa meal, flax seed, yeast culture, potassium chloride, dried kelp, salt montmorillonite, tomato pomace, dried carrot, choline chloride, hydrolyzed yeast, dried chicory root, taurine, zine, amino acid complex, vitamin E supplement.....
     
  2. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    I know I've exhausted myself with this as well.
     
  3. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    Seems like every time I find "The one" they raise the price. :((
    I created a spread sheet of all the 5 star rated, grain free foods that are available thru Chewy.com and sorted them according to price.
    I'm going to go with #3. With all the talk of the DCM possibly caused by grain free foods, this one has Taurine added.
    I missed one other food that is very similar to these three that also has added Taurine.
    So, hopefully the won't raise the price of either of these any time soon.
     
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  4. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    Ever consider feeding RAW?

    Can replace the chicken with a variety of other meat sources while using other ingredients that you know won't trigger an allergy.

    Plus the added benefit of not having to buy multiple brands of kibble and knowing exactly what is going into the dogs diet.

    I feed 6 this way for 80 bucks a month. Takes me about an hour to make a months worth of meals for them all.
     
  5. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Wow, how do you do that so fast? How do you know how much to give them? I think Tonka's immune system is too messed up for raw. She could have home cooked though. I'd love to feed Teddy raw. I think it would be really good for him.
     
  6. GK1

    GK1 Little Dog

    home cooking is better than processed kibble. raw is better than cooked. I think ‘balanced, complete diet’ advertised by dog food companies is a misnomer. do wolves, coyotes eat balanced, complete diets twice a day every day in granulated form?
     
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  7. oldman

    oldman Little Dog

    I have raised hundreds of dogs and never had one who had any problems with any dog food. No digestive problems and no allergies. I knew a man who only fed his dogs the Old Roy dogfood and had healthy dogs.
    When and why did all of the problems start?
     
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  8. GK1

    GK1 Little Dog

    Yes I’m sure there is empirical evidence of dogs going 15 years on Alpo and other unnatural corn and sawdust infused trash. And humans going 90+ on lucky strikes and Taco Bell. Doesn’t mean it’s optimal for the respective organism, nor how nature designed them. Disclaimer: I have a bag of Zignature grain free in the garage. Dogs seem to do just fine on it when I’m out of meat. No allergies nothing.
     
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  9. oldman

    oldman Little Dog

    I usually fed high quality feed and raw. Dogs did well enough to win their championship and grand championship.
     
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  10. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    I just go by how they look. If they are too thin give more, too big give less. Eventually you find the dogs midrange.
    It don't take long to prepare when you been doing it for any amout of time. Like with anything, the more you do it the better or faster you'll be at it. A good heavy cleaver and a grinder helps. Lol
     
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  11. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    I've looked into it, but found it quite a bit more expensive than kibble. If I could do it for $80/month, I'd be all over it!
    I'll have to do some more research and see where I can get a good supply of product. I could fit a small fridge where I keep the kibble containers now.
     
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  12. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    So are you putting a week's worth of food in a freezer bag for each dog or something? How can you get this done in 1 hr. What are you feeding?
     
  13. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    Basically I feed a slightly modified version of satin balls along with chunks of meat, usually chicken with bone and a multivitamin.. Meat wise though I'll grab whatever I can get the cheapest, same with organ meat. During the fall/winter/spring I hunt so they get a lot more variety than in the summer. I just started feeding raw like 6 or 7 months ago although I've done it on and off in cycles for at least a decade, closer to 2.

    I have a stand alone deep freezer and I fill gallon Ziploc bags with the meatball concoction and other bags of chunked meat and bone. I also do soft boiled eggs. I keep a bag of each in my refrigerator. When it starts to get low I just grab another bag out the freezer and throw it in my fridge. When I get home from work I grab their dishes and the bags in my fridge and pretty much just throw it in the bowl and vwalla.... Dinner is done.

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  14. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

    You can also use the egg shells. Grind them up and add to the food.
     
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  15. GK1

    GK1 Little Dog

    Great menu pictures. bet your dogs inhale that stuff. I like the addition of organ meat. I believe some vegetable matter liked cooked sweet potato is beneficial for digestion along with eggshells. couple friends of mine are deep sea fisherman, yet don't really eat fish.. I do and so do the dogs. they get it raw (after a month of freezing) with some kelp.
     
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  16. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    my two would love this!
     
  17. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    I do. They are mixed into the satin ball.
     
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  18. oldman

    oldman Little Dog

    You can save some money if you know a butcher or a slaughter house.
    Especially a slaughter house. Lots of good dog food goes to waste there.
     
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  19. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    I have always wondered this as well.
     
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  20. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Yep. I go to a custom butcher who takes all the cutting board scraps -- organ meat, bone dust, fat/meat trimmings, etc from beef, lamb, pork, chicken -- and makes up a burger and puts it in one-pound packages to sell as dog food. It's great stuff. I use it to mix into a decently priced kibble. Dogs love it of course. Not cheap at $2 a pound (started out at $1 a pound, but it was so popular -- supply and demand baby!). They also sell large marrow bones.
     
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