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Resisting the urge to say "game-bred"

Discussion in 'Today's APBT' started by xgarrettxvx, Oct 25, 2009.

  1. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    Resisting the urge to say "game-bred"

    I'm going to try really hard from here on out to not use the term "game-bred" anymore, and i'd encourage others to do the same. I'm not involved with game-dogs, so i guess my opinions don't matter much on the term. But just because a dog has game dogs in it's ped doesn't mean that dog is nec. game. So, if a dog from "game" lines is used for showing, or as a pet, i think i'll try to use "adba standard" or "adba type." Do you game fanciers think this is a good, bad, or pointless idea?
  2. DieselDawg

    DieselDawg Good Dog

    It won't change the opinions of the groups/individuals that want to irradicate the breed...but I understand your thinking
  3. IronChef

    IronChef Big Dog

    "Game bred" denotes either one of two things:

    1. The dog was produced with gameness in mind

    or, more commonly,

    2. The dog is down from game dogs.

    It does not necessarily mean that said dog will be "game".
  4. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    I actually came up with the thought because of how gamedog fanciers seem to be, no offense, but sort of elitist. Why would they want people to assume a dog is game from it's breeding. I, while again not involved with gamedogs, believe in breeding for purpose over papers, as do most gamedoggers.

    IronChef, i understand the definition, i just see a problem with the 2nd part of it i guess. lol. I'm not saying no one should say it really, i'm asking if it should be a more reserved title. or just do away with game bred...and it's either a game dog...or not.
  5. IronChef

    IronChef Big Dog

    I see where you are coming from. I don't use the term very often myself; generally it's a given why the dog was produced, if you know what you're looking at... Especially in today's environment.
  6. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I usually try to use Gamelines more than Gamebred.
  7. (this is my opinion and in NO WAY reflects the opinion of this community)

    It's those terms we shy away from, and are scared of saying outloud..we're afraid people will seek us out and attack us because of the breed. And if you have dogs, it's a legitimate fear! But freedom of speech is on our side. Don't incriminate.. but speak proudly of your dogs and their breeding. Be proud that your dog has a game and courageous heritage!

    When I kept and bred dogs (I don't have any at this time), I focused on game-bred dogs.. Dogs that were used and bred for a purpose,not just pretty pedigrees. I broke laws,culled cur's,and lived the life a few years..and I was eventually charged with the crime of misdemeanor Animal Cruelty(luckily,I live in an old school state so it wasn't a felony) because a litter of barely weaned pups had worms(Ironic is the only word that even comes close!). I sold off my dogs because the HSUS and the ASPCA,looking for publicity and donations,ran the story in two hometown newspapers and soon everyone knew about me. People drove by my property, pointed and whispered,sent hate mail, and all because the HSUS and ASPCA left out the true nature of the charge and highlighted "pit-bull","used to fight",and "animal cruelty" instead. So now I'm not afraid to speak out.

    I'm not proud of what I done and do not condone or encourage dogfighting, but I'm not ashamed of my past or the dogs either. I'll not abandon my game dog's,the history,the terminology,or the purpose of the breed. I feel that if we all fail to stand up for ourselves and these dogs, we will lose them alot quicker than necessary.

    GAME-BRED, GAME DOGS are becoming extinct and we should fight with everything we have to protect them. We should lobby,raise funds, support legal sports like hog-hunting,fight breed bans,and challenge the extremists every way we can. Most importantly,we should not be afraid of using free speech to communicate our cause to each other and to others. Don't support dogfighting..but don't be scared to love your game-bred dog, or tell others about him!

    Just this week I heard some encouraging news on how the Boudreaux' family has filed suit against the people who murdered his dogs, his years of hard work and his legacy. Some of us have nothing left to lose and choose to scratch back into the fight..I only hope more follow Mr. Floyd's lead.
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  8. woody d

    woody d Big Dog

    i dont think ill be calling mine ADBA standard, considering mine have flaws...they werent bred to any standard other than the good ones get bred. not the pretty ones, or the ones who can walk around the ring and stack for a judge. lol...you can be scared, but i aint, they are what they are. Gamebred American Pit Bull Terriers
  9. Fieldmarshal

    Fieldmarshal Big Dog

    Just call it a APBT.
  10. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Good Dog

    i say referr to them a game bred dogs, or "bulldogs". when sum1 asks what kinda pit bull or what kind of dog is that im too lazy to say "its an ADBA STANDART APBT" lol thats just rediculous, im not ashamed of how these dogs are bred nor should anybody else that handles em be.
  11. Pitlove

    Pitlove Big Dog

    I think using terms like "Game" or "Gamebred" just reinforces the stereotype that these are nothing but viscious fighting dog's and the owners are nothing but lowlife hoodlums.
    With that in mind I honestly don't think it would change anyones minds if we did start refering to them as "happy sunshine and roses bred dogs" the ignorant people are still gonna think what they think without the need to educate themselves on the matter.

    In all honesty I think it would be better if we started putting those terms to use as a description for other legal areas these dogs excel in such as weight pulling, agility etc. I believe the terminology needs to be modernized along with the image of these dogs in order for them to survive.
  12. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    call them whatever you like....you know what you got and i know what i got....call them aeroplanes if you like it aint gonna change what they are no matter what name you want to put on them.

    too much emphasis is put on technical stuff these days and the quality of dogs is left behind.
  13. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    Personally I'd rather get the terms meaning what they used to mean and take back the overused misdefined term of "game" that the wanna-bes, thugs, and ignorant have taken and given a bad rap to.

    I have no problems if I own a rescued generic "pit bull" or a show-bred dog. But I also don't have a problem saying I own dogs from game lines or even a true gamebred dog.

    I have nothing to hide and I am not ashamed of my dogs or their history. So if I'm not embarrassed or ashamed, why should I try to distance myself from such and let the stupid and ignorant continue to misuse the words and let them continue to destroy the dogs and the breed?

    It's time we step up and take our dogs back. Not lie down and try to apologize.

    JMO as always
  14. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Good Dog

    honestly i dont believe that the terms game or game bred dont belong in the sam sentence as weight pull or agility!! apples and oranges!
  15. milew66623

    milew66623 Big Dog

    If you have a gamedog, or a gamebred dog, or a dog that is from game lines, call it that if you please. My thing is (maybe i'm wrong) everyone knows snitches cruise these sights and know what "Game" means. So if some one is saying I have a Gamedog, and AC comes knocking that could be a reason, maybe not. If you have a dog and say its parents were gamedogs, and at some point mention the kennel you got him from and the kennel gets raided, that could be a reason too. Am I wrong? I mean HSUS are looking for any reason possible to rid the APBT and dogs a like. What a better reason to ruin somes day because they heard you say you have a "game dog". Now talking with friends and those you know is one thing, but publicly isn't a great idea IMO.

    Ain't nothing wrong with being proud of your dog and it's/it's parents accomplishments, but stating it out in the open with all the bullshit surrounding the breed these days cannot be good.
  16. trey01

    trey01 Big Dog

  17. Excellent point! but here lies the whole problem...

    These snitches pass on "hearsay".. What we term "free speech" the HSUS ASPCA and PETA (as well as law enforcement), they call "probable cause".. Then they are on someone's yard looking to investigate, and they can always find something "suspicious". So they take your dogs while they are building a case against you, but they can't really builld a firm case so it takes time, And now your dog's are killed by the "animal rights guardians" because they are either "dangerous", too expensive to reform, or it's just their policy..
    But wait... they just destroyed evidence.
    You all go to court and the judge throws it out, Yeah! You won!! Or did you? Maybe they just wanted you to go thru all that to send a message to others.. The ending is still the same..they got to kill more dogs,they got publicity, they got donations, you got a bad reputation, now your broke, and everybody is watching your every move...

    But if we all choose to speak out, in one voice...They don't have the resources to fight us all. It'll get to the point where it's like the civil rights movement, or marijuana legalization..we'll start slow at the grassroots level, but we'll grow. And pretty soon we've went from fringe minority to a voice of reason for the majority...

    ---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:35 PM ----------

    Great post!!
  18. milew66623

    milew66623 Big Dog

    I do not disagree at all, although matching dogs is illegal and if someone is talkign about illegal activity, like if I talk about robbing a bank, and a snitch is on here looking for someone to talk about robbery and someone talks about it as in, they have done it, or are involved in it: they can use that as prbable cause.

    Like I said I do not disagree with you, but loose lips sink ships
  19. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I agree that someone shouldn't go around saying "my dog is so game" or putting #xW on their pedigrees, but saying your dog is from gamelines or gamebred is quite different than claiming your dog is game.
  20. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Good Dog

    i agree wit the snitch thing but lets be honest in order to find our info they would have to go through the sites owner, which hopefully would have the morality to not point any fingers.

    ---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:05 PM ----------

    i mean really, who does that?

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