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Rescue Tonight...Advice Please...

Discussion in 'Rescue & Adoption' started by rdunn89, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. rdunn89

    rdunn89 Puppy

    I am going to buy a pit bull, Aiden, tonight from a lady that has kept him on a 3 foot leash outside in VA for the last 8 months, he is malnourished and has very bad wounds on his ears, and bed sores on his body. I am planning to take him to the vet as soon as I get him. Does anyone have any advice for me going through this process...The dog is kind toward me and my dog by the way...
     
  2. Galadriel

    Galadriel Good Dog

    Why are you buying a neglected dog from someone?
    1. You have no idea what this dog's temperament will be like once you remove him from that situation.
    2. The odds of them getting another dog with the money you give them, are high. New dog, same situation.

    A better idea would be to call animal control and report her. If the dog is in the condition you say he is, they'll pick him up, get him taken care of, you can put in a request to adopt once he's been vetted and altered, and she gets ticketed and fined. This will keep you from exposing your now healthy dog to what ever illnesses the other dog may have, and make her think twice about getting another dog.
     
  3. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Good post, Gala.
     
  4. firedrake13

    firedrake13 Good Dog

    Awesome post Gal, I agree 100%
     
  5. Loki

    Loki Big Dog

    I agree too, just make sure the Animal Control in your area is "pitbull" friendly, if it is a pitbull type dog.
     
  6. rdunn89

    rdunn89 Puppy

    She does not want the dog, or any dog for that matter, she knows the way the dog is being treated is wrong, it is her sons who is in jail. I will not call the animal control because this 70 year old women does not deserve the punishment her son does. I do not intend on my dog being any where near the other dog I have a separate basement to accommodate him, and I am 100% POSITIVE if this dog gets picked up where I live it will be put down. I understand that I have not been with the dog off the leash but I am willing to risk a bite to help the dog.

    Do you assume that everyone who tries to help is an idiot? I have thought of all the obvious answers, this is the only way to do this. I turned to this forum for transition process help not to be scrutinized for my decision but I can see, that I will not find that here. Thanks for your time.
     
  7. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    All you told us is that you were saving a dog from a lady who kept him on a 3 ft. chain.

    So, you got some suggestions. I don't think you should take offense to it. I don't think anyone was assuming a helpful person is an "idiot". Some people think more with their heart than their mind when it comes to rescuing a puppy/dog. Gala was just giving you some advice, since all we had to go on is what you told us.
     
  8. Galadriel

    Galadriel Good Dog

    No one was scrutinizing you for your decision, nor does anyone think you're an idiot. Just trying to offer an alternative to keep you and your dog safe, and help the other one out. Decisions based on the tugging of ones heartstrings are often NOT a good decision. We see it time and time again.
    You asked for advise and it was given based on the info you provided. At the end of the day, it's your money, your decision, but to become defensive with people who are trying to help you AND the dog after you asked for the advise...well...if you don't want opinions that may differ from yours, don't ask.

    edit: If that little old woman really cared at all about the dog, she'd have given it up to the pound, instead of keeping it on a 3 foot tie out, starved, unsocialized, and beat up until someone came along and offered to buy it. So yes...she's just as guilty as her son.
     
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  9. rdunn89

    rdunn89 Puppy

    I wont be asking anymore questions, but every pit rescue site I have been to, no one wants to help me by answering my question, immediately it is, "no you need to call animal control", and I would think you would know best how pits get treated by A/C. I wish you could understand my frustration, but I don't think that is going to happen, I am getting ready to take on a huge responsibility and I just wanted some support going through it.
     
  10. firedrake13

    firedrake13 Good Dog

    No one here assumes or is implying you or anyone else is an idiot. You asked for advice, and I think that what was given was good advice considering what information was given.

    We have many people who are members here who do rescues all the time. When we get a new member who is asking for advice, this is usually what we tell them.

    Again you really don't know this dog, if it's stable or not. As much as each of us wants to help a dog or any animal thats in such a horrible situation the sad fact of the matter is, we can't always help them all. As you will see in some of the memorial posts in that section.

    I hope for your sake that this dog can be helped, and should you have any questions we will do our best to answer them.

    Edit: I can't really give any specific advice on this situation, but perhaps one of the members who does do this type of thing might be on later and will be willing to help you.
     
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  11. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Not all AC treat "pit bulls" like crap. So, you could have just said, "No, that won't work. The AC in my town is anti-pit bull", and we all would have understood.

    Again, no one was trying to put you down, or belittle your rescue effort.

    There are many people in this world who think that by buying a dog in a bad situation from someone it helps. When in fact, many times, that person just uses that to make money. Not saying this is your situation, but I am sure you can see where we are coming from as well.

    You gave us a tiny bit of information, and seem to think we should all know the whole story. We can only go by what you told us. The advice wasn't to belittle you. It wasn't to discourage you. It was just advice. You can take it or leave it. No reason to get all defensive over it.

    You can ask questions, but I think you need to learn, that a lot of different opinions are on this board, and not everyone is going to agree or tell you what you want to hear.
     
  12. rdunn89

    rdunn89 Puppy

    like i said I wish you could understand my frustration but i don't think you will... thanks again.
     
  13. Big_Ant

    Big_Ant Little Dog

    Again, why is it that money has to exchange hands? If you are doing it simply to help this poor old woman, why do you have to pay her?

    If the dog is being neglected, why are you paying?
     
  14. firedrake13

    firedrake13 Good Dog

    No I think we do...

    You didn't tell us that the AC in your area is anti pit bull, thus our advice to contact them first.

    I live in a city where AC wont even come out when I called about a puppy who was chained in a back yard with no food and dirty water for a week, crying 24 hours a day. I still don't know what happened to the dog...it just went away one day.

    I tried my best to help the dog, but calling AC and the Police did nothing. I was not about to go back there and get the dog myself since the house was a crack dealers house that was shot at 3 times in less than a year in drive bys...

    When we don't know the whole story we can't give anything other than generic "call the AC" advice.
     
  15. rdunn89

    rdunn89 Puppy

    because she is poor and i offered. I know that she should give it up with out the money but I just dont want her family talking her out of it...
     
  16. Galadriel

    Galadriel Good Dog

    You seem very set on getting this dog. PLEASE, wait until morning, when the vet is open, and take the dog right to the vet, and NOT your home. There are a number of things you could be bringing into your house that could put you and your dog at risk.
    You need to have him checked for fleas and worms, and treated. He really needs a good, thorough exam and a clean bill of health. I know you said he was going to be in the basement, but that won't stop anything he may be carrying that's contagious.
    So he needs to be vetted, get his shots, and set him up with a neuter appointment if he's not already altered. Again, this really needs to be done BEFORE you take him to your house.
     
  17. DieselDawg

    DieselDawg Good Dog

    There is the best advice yet...use the money to care for the dog first and then decide the next step to take. Let your Vet give his suggestions on the matter since you probably trust him. If the VET gives you the "green light", then you can decide on the next step that is best for the dog and you. Make sure that you are ready to listen to the VET and not get defensive. I know you might not believe it but the great majority of dogs on this site were rescues/adoptions/finds and we DO understand some of what you are going thru...
     
  18. I think you really need to listen to some of the advice you are given here. I do not think it is us (the members here) who don't understand. I think the problem is you are dead set on getting this dog and you dont want to see anyone else's point of view.

    Over the past year I have rescued/fostered a couple Pit mixes. NONE of them came right into my home. They all spent some time at the vets office before I let them near any of my other animals. I also didn't PAY anyone for abusing their dog.

    The pup that we just got a week ago is a rescue. A local breeder's son found the puppy in pretty bad shape and brought it to his mother. The lady took the pup to the vet and spent a couple weeks taking care of the pup. When we went to get the dog she wanted NOTHING for it. But when she showed me the vet bills (to prove to me she has her first set of shots), I gladly gave her money to help cover the vet costs, food and time that she had invested in the pup. I never have and never will pay money for a dog that is in rough shape that needs "saving".

    From someone who has done rescue work for years I would recommend that you sit back and really think about the situation you are about to put yourself in. The whole story you told us makes me feel like there are either things you are not telling us, or there are things she is not telling you. Either way it can really turn out bad in the end.
     
  19. firedrake13

    firedrake13 Good Dog

    :goodposting:
     
  20. PNWPBR

    PNWPBR Good Dog

    Great posting, thank you.
     

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