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Refusal Commands

Discussion in 'Obedience & Sports' started by adk26rn, Oct 14, 2014.

  1. adk26rn

    adk26rn Little Dog

    I might be late, but A friend of mine shared this on my FB page. I thought it was neat. His dog is practicing his refusal commands.


    He is a trainer and post a lot of videos and tips on his FB site......
    "The Trauma Training Experince"
  2. kbell6987

    kbell6987 Little Dog

    cool that was fun to watch he has such concentration on his owner that's great. thanks for sharing
  3. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    I'm actually seeing something completely different. The dog looks tense to me. His body language isn't loose and his lips are tight while he's avoiding eye contact with the guy performing distraction work.
  4. adk26rn

    adk26rn Little Dog

    ima take another look at it, are you saying he's avoiding eye contact with the owner or the guy trying to get him to do the commands?
  5. adk26rn

    adk26rn Little Dog

    i see what your talking about. Is he suppose to give eye contact to the guy distracting?
  6. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Wow, that seems like it would be so overwhelming for the dog.
  7. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    Avoiding eye contact is a distance increasing signal used by dogs when they are uncomfortable with a situation. It could have been just a coincidence that he was avoiding eye contact with the distractor, but he was also doing so with a tight mouth which is another indicator of the dog being uncomfortable with what was going on. His entire body also seems tense to me. It is most evident when the handler walks away and leaves the dog in a down. However, I feel like I am also seeing a tensed dog even when in a heel at the handler's side at the beginning of the video.

    Watch the video with the sound off. Compare his body language at the beginning of the video with the end when he knows he's going to get to be allowed to have some fun. He starts making more eye contact with the distractor. He opens his mouth and does a little bit of panting but it is not a tight, stressed type of panting. It's a relaxed panting.

    Just my .02
  8. adk26rn

    adk26rn Little Dog

    Yes, def, better to watch without the sound. I see how he begins to pant and relax, it's a difference from the beginning.

    good 2cents
  9. the dog looks stressed in this exerciser and in all the other videos this guy has posted with his dog. avoided eye contact with anyone and having a stiff body language. it seems that he is engaging cause he has too not that he wants too like compulsion based training will always show the stress in a dog also when he is showing how to heel the dog (another video) he corrects when the dog actually looks at him... its confusing for me and im sure for the dog. I have seen a few of his videos and looked his dog up and hasn't achieved any titles or trialed him with any sport? so im not sure what he is trying to accomplish with the scenarios specially with the call offs using the word "NO" is a negative marker and not wanting the dog to perform that act but he is doing exactly what the handler wanted him to do ... why not use the heel command or "here" to get the dog to come back? anyways every video confuses me and im no expert either so maybe someone like Leri Hanson can help clarify ?
  10. adk26rn

    adk26rn Little Dog

    agreed. It was shared on my FB page. I have since looked him up and watched other video's. I definatley seen the video where he gave word "NO" with the call offs. It was confusing for me, because he's using the word "No" in the wrong context. or so it seems to me. But im no expert either. Soo it cant be right if even I picked that up. :grin:
  11. Medic man

    Medic man Puppy

    Do you have to copy and paste the video links?

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