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"RE" Razor's Edge dogs

Discussion in 'American Bully' started by Seattle's Best Pits, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. adopt-a-bull

    adopt-a-bull Puppy

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  2. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Bogart: Your rescue doesn't look TO ME what people are calling "bullies".....from what I understand, "bullies" are the real stocky, shorter-muzzled, shorter-legged dogs...otherwise, what IS the difference between "bullies" and regular Pits...Yours looks like a regular Pit to me!

  3. Bogart

    Bogart Puppy

    yup, they are indeed APBT's. i don't have a rescue AmBully. pinky (the mangy one) is responsible for changing my outlook on the dreaded "pitbull" (see my story on page 7 of this thread, fifth post down) as portrayed by media. the premise of my last rant is, there are good and bad breeders regardless what type of dog breed is out there...
  4. mikefromMD

    mikefromMD Big Dog

    ADBA standard or nothing at all....
  5. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    No one is saying that there aren't bad breeders in each breed. Heck, we all know that sadly enough. There just seems to be more bad breeders in the Ambully world, unfortunately, for the good Ambully Breeders, because the good ones seem to be overshadowed by the bad.
  6. princesstrish617

    princesstrish617 Little Dog

    Part of the reason ppl may still refer to thier dog as APBT is because they don;t want to deal with the comments, of hippo, pig, fat hog ect. Thats just my opinion.

    I will say that I have no papers on my dog. Her sire looks ambully and her mom looked to fit the APBT standard......but of course there is no way of knowing. If I'm asked what kind of dog I have I would give the short answer of pitbull. But would not say APBT or Ambully unless I was asked in more detail then I would state exactly as I did about regarding the sire and dam. Its my understanding pitbull is a vauge term used to describe a few differrant breeds.

    correct me if I am wrong
  7. Bogart

    Bogart Puppy

    hi princess,
    i'm new to this scene as well; ambully/APBT stuff. here's a conversation i had with a friend last saturday while watching the UFC

    me: gordon, how old is your bulldog?

    gordon: oh, he's about 5 years old

    me: nice dog! you know, we're taking home a new puppy soon.

    gordon: really? another bulldog (i have a bulldog)?

    me: nah, an american bully

    gordon: oh yeah, american bulldogs are nice!

    me: no, not american bulldogs; american bully.

    gordon: huh? isn't that the same?

    me: nah. actually it's kinda like an Ey Pee Bee Tee.

    gordon: what the hell is that?

    me: an American Pitbull terrier, you know -

    gordon: yeah, you're getting an american bulldog, right? they look kinda like a pitbull. like you said american pitbull

    me: well, yes, but that's not what we're getting. we're getting an american bully

    gordon: what the hell is an american bully?

    me: ( i was about ready to recite the miranda rights but decided i didn't go over to his house and get all mr. dog whisperer all of a sudden so...) never mind. it's a freakin' pitbull. we're getting a pitbull. now, can you pass me another bud lite?

    luckily, the rampage/silva fight was about to come on...
  8. princesstrish617

    princesstrish617 Little Dog

    lol...thats the same type of response I got when I tryed to explain that I learnt my dog was possibly part american bully. My friend said ya its a pitbull?
  9. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    That is crazy, because I find people are less likely to call them names like "hippo", "pig", and "fat hog", when the person calls it an Ambully, and are more likely to use those terms when the person refers to it as an APBT.

    Some people would say that only the APBT is the true "pit bull", but yes, in general terms, an Ambully, an Amstaff, and an APBT are all "pit bulls", but an Ambully and an Amstaff are not an APBT.

    Bogart, since the term Ambully is still pretty new (though the breed has been in development for about 20 years now) it would be hard to people to recognize the breed name. Heck, sometimes if I mention that I'd like to get a Patterdale Terrier to people, they have no clue what I am talking about either, and I have to explain it to them, and I can't even remember how many times I had to explain what an Amstaff is. lol
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  10. princesstrish617

    princesstrish617 Little Dog

    I see where you are comming from. I am new to all this stuff but in the caes that ppl were still using these names even after the breed was being identified as correctly I could understand why ambully owners were referring to thier dogs as APBT.

    I think alot has to do lack of knowledge. The ppl breeding these dogs calling them APBT and with breeders using hung papers ect to keep them registered as APBT....this only leads buyers to believe their dog is in fact an APBT. I feel that the in order to at some point have the AMBully be recocognized correctly as a breed seperate from the ambully the registrys have to be more strict in registering litters ect.
  11. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Luckily, Trish, the AADR is going to be registering the Ambully now, which might help the Ambully people start to accept their breed more since now they'll have two registered, who knows, maybe someday the ADBA and UKC will, and the Ambully people will finally let go of the APBT name and accept and love their dogs for the breed it is.
  12. princesstrish617

    princesstrish617 Little Dog

    The only thing that confuses me is that how can a breed standard be made for the Ambully if its pretty much unknown what breeds are mixed in to make the ambully?

    For instance what is the temperment that an Ambully should have? and what are considered temperment faults?
  13. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Here is the AADR standard for the Ambully.

    Here is the ABKC standard.
    http://www.abkcdogs.org/ It doesn't have a direct link, so, go to breeds, and they have a standard there.

    Their faults on ABKC is the following:
    "Faults to be penalized: kinked, twisted, or knotted tails; pink eyes and any form of albinoism; tail too long or curled; undershot or overshot mouths; severe turned fronts; aggressive behavior towards animals or humans."
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  14. princesstrish617

    princesstrish617 Little Dog

    thanks for the links. But I don't see how the animal aggression can be a fault as the american bully does have APBT in it and they usually have a strong prey drive.
  15. Diggler

    Diggler Puppy

    One of the main reasons for the AmBully in the first place is to start weeding out the DA..that is why it is considered a fault.
    Bullies are often much less drivey & gamey than APBT's.
  16. Bogart

    Bogart Puppy

    thanks for the links, CHJ!!!
  17. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    No problem, Bogart.
  18. Dare2bme71

    Dare2bme71 Puppy

    Not All RE are overdone..

    My Razor's Edge Female is not over done, I don't like the over done look
    either, but to say its Razor's Edge line and not idiots who are breeding to for that grossly over done look. Not All Razor's Edge look like that. So Idiots breeding for over done or more like what my DH, say ground bats are ruining the line IMO.
  19. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    She's not bad. But what's up with her feet? She's extremely down in the pastern in that front foot/leg I can see.
  20. bluestark

    bluestark American Bully Moderator

    Razor's Edge dogs... NOT OVERDONE!!! It's really starting to piss me off that everyone thinks American Bullies, or Razor's Edge dogs are pigs, and fat......With that said. Further ADO___
    Some of his pedigree includes...
    'PR' Razors Edge Blue Voltage, Razor's Edge VooDoo
    Many of Falin's dog.... buddy,scarletts no 1, de la o's duke, riverboat queen,
    'PR' TSO black majic voodoo, 21 blackjack, and Juan Gotti is in ped. Way down line on 7th gen.

    We also have in 4th gen...
    Razor's Edge forever junior, causin a ruckus, red persuasion,
    We have Watchdog's faith blue bear, And condra's gigolo, and moon dust nelson


    And here are a few more of ours....
    (oh, and the dogs are no longer living in CRAP like those pens...) They are now in concreted pens with nice dog houses, with fans.... Just so no one says we are abusing our dogs.... That was VERY temporary

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