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Raising a puppy & working full time (8hour shifts maximum)

Discussion in 'Pit Bull Puppy Discussions' started by SelinaKyle, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    And potty pads just teach your dog it's acceptable to piss and shit in the house. I'd scrap that idea. It's more headache then it's worth and it it will confuse the pup as to what it is you expect of them.
     
  2. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    This times 1000.
    My sis in law has a yorkie poo that she started out on pee pads, the dog is 4 now and still goes in the house. My SIL just decided to keep out the pee pads because after trying to break the habit because the dog was so very confused. It would still go in the spot where the pads used to be.
    This isn't that big of a deal for a dog that poops rabbit turds and pees the equivalent of a cpl t spoons, I guess. But for a dog that can end up being 40-50-60 pounds, that's a lot of mess to clean up day in and day out.
     
  3. EstyEsty

    EstyEsty Little Dog Premium Member

    Selinakyle
    .I would definitely take your PUPPY to a reputable dog day care. I would definitely check out the staff. I would never put my dog of any age in a CRATE. Your idea of using the playpin is better than a crate in my opinion, but I'm afraid that would be dangerous too. You might come home to a torn up house or a hurt or dead pup from strangulation. And I agree with socializing our "bully breed PUP"AS SOON AS POSSIBLE., and the earlier the better. I believe that can be achieved at the dog center and as Leighann said then when you come home you can do your thing with Huey like taking him out to use the bathroom, snuggling with him, and all the other good attention you can give him!
    You know a lot of members own dogs and they feel way different about how to bring up a dog than I do. I got my first pit 12 yrs ago when she was 7 weeks old. I was lucky and got to take her to work with me sometimes. I also left her with my son or my Mother with instructions of what she could and couldn't do. And what I expected out of them. I never wanted her to be mean. And she wasn't. I introduced her to adults, kids,dogs,took her everywhere with me, even got her used to wheelchairs. We visited nursing homes and when she was a pup she used to ride in my old World War II VETERANS laps in their wheelchairs! I exposed her to 100's of dogs at dog shows at hockey games,even walked her out on the ice in front of 3000 fans! And I believe it was from early socialization. If I had crated her for endless hours every day she would not have developed like she did.
    So yes you can successfully raise your dog and work a job as I did.
    Some of us are not into "working" our dogs, keeping them crated or putting them outside on huge chains. We just want a loyal.well mannered "Pit Bull" companion to love and be a part of our family. You have a great attitude and you sound really smart to me so I think your pup is gonna turn out to be a good dog!
    And I forgot to tell you that he is just previous!
     
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  4. EstyEsty

    EstyEsty Little Dog Premium Member

    Excellent advise!!
     
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  5. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    Omg !!! I have actually found someone to have the same parenting skills as myself!!! I don' get individuals who desire a DA attitude It's high stress, more liability and limits you with where you take your BFF. All my bully breeds have been raised in a very similar fashi n and as a result, I can take them everywhere.. it's a perfect set up for me!
     
  6. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    Haven't read many of the responses, but this is what I did with puppies.
    We put a crate in my car and the puppy went to work with me for at least 4 months. They were walked every 2 hours and got to met people at work.
    Frankie was fully potty trained at about 4 months. She started in a knowledgeable foster home before we adopted her at 12 weeks.
    Rikki was started on potty pads with a novice dog family before we got her at 10 weeks. She will be 3 in December and is still not 100% reliable on going potty outside. She'll go weeks w/o an incident, then she'll go days with a mess in the house. My carpet shampooer is very well used!
     
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  7. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    And for the record.. I get that we all may have different parenting skills.. none are wrong or right.. there is no dog for dummies book is there?? If so, I will go buy to learn more. I don' claim to know it all.. but I do know what works for me and my active lifestyle that Involves dog day outings, 5 ks, barks at the park, cocktails for critters...and so on.. it is crucial I have a dog friendly and social fur buddy. . So, my advice to you is.. what are your goals as a dog owner? What is important to you? Whatever you do, it can't hurt to put your dog in as many situations as possible. This helps the dog grow, learn and mature while building confidence. The last thing you want is a dog that is aggressive out of insecurity.
     
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  8. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    There is nothing wrong with crates or crate training. Crates are a dogs "safe haven". As far as doggy day cares go....my opinion...you are setting your dog up to fail. You don't know the temperment of the other dogs that are there AND you know that the bully breed is DA.
    No one is saying to crate the dog all day. If the OP can find someone with bully experience to walk the dog during the day that, to me, is a much better option than doggy day care. The dog wont be "mean" because it's in a crate. Genetics make your dog's temperment what it is, along with training. Your dog will be loyal and well mannered even if you crate them.
    Remember they are dogs, NOT children. You can expose your dog to many positive things. Doggy day care is not one of them.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2017
  9. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    ^^^^^what she said x 1000. It's been proven, by people who have doctorates on animal behavior that dogs don't think, act our should be treated like kids. Please don't anthropomorphize your dog. Let him be a dog!
    Additionally, I'd like to mention that my last bitch was showing DA by 14 weeks.
    Crating is not cruel, someone mentioned that pup well sleep most of the day anyway. And, pups sleep a lot. Mine now will play for 45 minutes and pass out for 2.5 hours.
    As for "working" your dog, you don't have to get into competitive sports (although, they're freaking addicting) but work him at home. Ob is always fun, Denise Fenzi had some great online classes and why not condition a dog? Keeps them healthy. I love to exercise and lift weights so my dogs do the same.
     
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  10. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    Have any of you guys watched the NETFLIX documentary about Michael Vicks dogs? I enjoyed it and found it to be very informative with the two polar opposte opinions on those who thought they could be rehabilitated and those who thought they should be euthanized.
    I don' believe all dogs can be rehabilitated and I also believe that dogs can get along with some but not all as personalities can clash. I also feel that a Pit mix has a little bit more removed aggression than a full blood pit.. so there are all these factors involved as well.. ETRaven... I am curious to know how is your DA dog acting towards the new puppy? I realize even with my little Frenchie when introdcing Millie for the first time, she was territorial at first in her home, but now they eat out of the same dog bowl.. I couldn't imagine how it would have been if either dog was DA.. a different ending I am sure!
     
  11. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    My DA dog was euthanized bc she was also HA and bit a child pretty severely.
    There would be no way on earth that in my situation, I could've crate and rotated Raven. I would never have owned another animal with her. She was a lot, a lot to handle. She was socialized well, and I did all the right things. But by 15 weeks we were asked to resign from puppy class bc the other owners were afraid of her. And by 7 months she was in her first dog fight. (She's been in two) Her dam was a bitch off of Garner's yard that this guy in Detroit got ahold of and sire was a BC.
     
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  12. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs OHMUHGERD Staff Member Administrator Premium Member

    Anybody seen my waders? it's getting thick in here lol.
     
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  13. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    It's not personalities, it's GENETICS.
     
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  14. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    Exactly. Line I said, I did everything right with Ray, Rule of Sevens, introduced her to ppl in uniforms, wheelchairs, people that walk with canes, kids, babies, dropped pans, list goes on and in the end, genetics overruled.
     
  15. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    I don't desire a DA attitude, well, maybe I do. But honestly I'm not an "I love all dogs" kind of person. So I like a dog that isn't super social, so I don't have to put up with other owners and their doodles. Bleck. Lol. And managing DA is not that stressful. It was the HA that stressed me out.
    On the flip side, if a dog social dog is what one likes and desires, why choose a breed with such a high propensity toward DA? I think it would be stressful to want a dog to be social and then not be able to have the dog be social bc they're DA.
     
  16. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member Super Moderator

    My thought's exactly ----^

    "On the flip side, if a dog social dog is what one likes and desires, why choose a breed with such a high propensity toward DA? I think it would be stressful to want a dog to be social and then not be able to have the dog be social bc they're DA."

    Life's a lot easier when we don't go against the grain....
     
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  17. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    Great point! I can't' answer for others who choose a bully breed that want to be in social settings, I only know from my personal experience. . All bully type breeds I have encountered have been extremely attentive, easy to train for me, willing to please their owner and are attractive looking with strong muscular features and they have eyes that carry such amazing expression.

    The one time I didn' own a bully was a mistake. . Yappy at other people and dpgs, the little brat bit me when I went to correct his behavior, he would pissed on my furniture, was defiant, and he was a mere 10 lbs of Brussel Griffon.

    So I am less stressed in social situations with two bully type dogs than I was with a 10lb dog. My dogs can run and play on the beach, they come toe when called, stay by my side and don't lunge or bark at other dogs when other dogs bark and lunge at them. I am extremely proud of their temperment in public and love to see people take notice.. it gives me a sense of satisfaction knowing this.. and if I beat the odds, then I will count my blessings.
     

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