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Raising a puppy & working full time (8hour shifts maximum)

Discussion in 'Pit Bull Puppy Discussions' started by SelinaKyle, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. SelinaKyle

    SelinaKyle Puppy

    I recently adopted a puppy and he was staying with my boyfriend at first but my boyfriend has had second thoughts about having him in the house. Instead of giving him to a shelter, I decided that I will keep him at my house because I am already attached. The only problem is I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Does anyone have experience with raising a puppy and working full time? I'll take all the advice I can get!!! I invested in a large play pen and puppy pads, but is there anything else I should try?

    Here's a picture of my baby boy. His name is Huey.

  2. Novy

    Novy Little Dog Premium Member

    Personally if I were in that situation I would crate train look at hiring somebody to let him out at least once a day for the next two or three months. Successful house training is going to be a struggle otherwise.
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  3. SelinaKyle

    SelinaKyle Puppy

    He has been going through crate training and he's doing well at that, I just didn't want to leave him in the crate for 8 hours so he would have more space to move around. I was going to keep him in the play pen and have some puppy pads in there.
    I will look into dog walking services in my area, thank you! Or doggy day cares lol
  4. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    I'm with Novy, if you start with pee pads, it's going to be hard to house train. I'd crate and either stop home on lunch hour for a bathroom break and quick walk or hire someone (neighbor, perhaps?) To do the same.
    I'm not a doggy day care fan. The staff is not there to help train your dog, they simply make sure no fights break out, provide water, clean up accidents and let the dogs out periodically. This leaves for yet another setback in house breaking and your pup can and will pick up the bad manners and habits of other dogs.
    As your pup matures, on top of everything I mentioned, there is a good chance he may become animal/dog aggressive. This is a bull breed trait. It is not a bad thing, it does not make him a bad dog, it's just as inherit as having a lab retrieve or a BC herd anything that moves.
    You can search this forum and find countless threads on bull breeds and day care and bull breeds and animal aggression/selective-ness.
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  5. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    oh how adorable Huey is!! I don't blame you for getting attached and kudos to you for taking responsibility for the little guy. With anything worth having, it is going to involve a little .. A LOT of work and patience.. so going in with this mindset will help set up more on what to expect. My friends that work strenuous hours LOVE and swear by doggie day care.. it also helps socialize your pup and that way, when you come home.. your pup have all his puppy energy out so it can be more of a relaxing evening at home.

    Socializing at a young age is just as important as crate training, walking on leash and other experiences you pup needs to grow into a confident and well behaved dog!! Good luck!
  6. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    ^^^ Socializing is important, and there are other, better ways to do it than day care.
    Do your friends have bull breeds? I think it is really irresponsible of you to encourage a bull breed owner to send their dog to day care with other dogs.
    If one has to rely on someone else to drain puppy energy for them, they have no business getting a dog IMHO. What's the point of having a dog if you don't work that dog?
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  7. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    yes.. I agree to a certain degree about day cares.. They are not all created equal.. Make sure that you do your research and find out if it is extra to have them exercised and socialized. Many of these facilities come with an E CAM that allows you to check in online throughout the day as well. My girls are on such a routine that I know when they need to use the bathroom.. so you can even provide a spread sheet of times he needs out and eats, etc.. it can't hurt to OVER PROVIDE them with any additional info as this is similar to a child's day care..
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  8. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    LeoghAnn, where are you getting your information???? Dog day care is NOTHING like a child's day care and to say that is misleading and irresponsible. There are not nearly the same regulations, ratio of staff to client and federal guidelines in place. It's like comparing apples to fritos. Stop. Please.
  9. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    I was answering her question about 8 hour work days.. and this is the most logic to her situation if she doesn't have family that can go in during the day.. The dog needs to be socialized during the day and exercised in the evening with the owner.. so yes and yes.. it is her responsibility to socialize and exercise..

    believe it or not.. bully breeds are capable of coexisting with other dogs.. I am around Pit and Bully breeds on a daily basis at the Humane Society I volunteer at and they do have social time there for the dogs to play. many are capable of play time with other dogs. It does exist.. Do not belittle a breed just because your dog cannot socialize. Putting a 'breed in a box' is sad and every dog should be viewed as an individual. Not all retrievers retrieve and not all labs love water.. and guess what.. some white people can dance..lol stereo types are killing me here..

    I would agree with you if EVERy bully breed had to be isolated and discouraged but I have a feeling that I am around some of the most abused dog cases on a daily basis more so than the average individual.. So yes, I am confident in expressing my opinion and disagreeing with you on this one. It can and does happen.
  10. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    No, just no.
    Socialiaztion can occur in the evening, just fine, along with working the dog.
    Well, rescue know it all, I guess you are aware that a kenneled envoronment, such as a shelter, is so stressful to a dog that typically their true DA/HA/AA doesn't mainfest until they go to a forever home THEN the forever home returns said dog because rescue says "friends to all animals" and it was not supposed to eat my little 5 pound yorkie.
    There are COUNTLESS, countless threads here and on other forums where this has occurred. ...use the search button.
    There are rare exceptions to this trend, of bully breeds being DA/selective.
    I can't even LeighAnn, why would you tell an owner, clearly not familiar with the breed that their dog will be fine with other animals?
    This is not a stereotype! This is a fact!!!!
    Where is SS, when I need him. D.O.G.
  11. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    ^^^^And, don't tell me that it can be done bc catchrcall and other hog hunters have done it with their dogs. He has said specifically that he breeds his line specifically that way, and unless you can get ahold of one of his pups, it's a freaking game of Russian roulette. Why take the risK, ever?
    And, I personally love the fact that bull breeds are not dog social. So, as for putting my breed in a box, I will thank you very much, with a wrapped little bow. It's one of the reasons I own bull breeds and not other breeds.
  12. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I know some of us may have differing opinions, but let’s try to keep the condescension to a minimum here.

    In general, I agree with Raven. I’m not a fan of dog daycares or other group-socialization settings for bull breeds, or most dogs to be honest. Having worked in a kennel (only one, I should mention, so I can’t say this is how every place operates) I can attest to the fact that there’s minimum supervision during group play times and bad habits definitely are created and slip through the cracks. The other concern here would be that this is a young puppy that likely is not fully vaccinated.

    I agree that it would be best to crate train and enlist someone’s help to check in on the pup and let them out throughout the day.
  13. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I am going to disagree with you on this. Of course there are some bully breeds that are not HA, but most are. It's a genetic fact. If the OP can come home for lunch during the day to walk her dog and give the dog a little exercise, I would opt for that over a doggie day care. OR, if the the OP can find a reputable dog walker that is familar with this breed and their traits I would opt for that too.
    There are a lot of people that work at these doggie day cares that have no clue about the genetic traits of this breed. I for one would never even consider a doggie day care as an option.
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  14. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    Sorry BC, I re-read and was like, oh snarky, much? (to myself)
  15. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    Bold mine...not trying to speak for Michele here, but I am pretty positive she means DA not HA. As HA (human aggression) is an undesirable breed trait and a true HA dog should be humanely euthanized, IMHO
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  16. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Oops...yes and thank you. I meant DA. I think I might be a little HA today...LOL!!!!
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  17. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    This actually may be cheaper than day care also, which is always nice on the purse!
  18. LeighAnn

    LeighAnn Little Dog Premium Member

    well put Michele.. you seem to realize that yes it is feasible for Bully's to socialize.. but because of genetic make-up.. they can become unruly if allowed.. I know that every breed out there was bred for a purpose .. I am just so tired of seeing people being 'scared' to adopt most any bully breeds from our shelter because of statistics... therefore they are quicker to be euthanized.
    Each dog is an individual and deserves a fair chance until given otherwise. It was all doom and gloom for poor little HUEY.. before he has probably even ever been around a dog.. it is that kind of pre-judgement that hurts the masses.

    There are exceptions and people do need to realize this.
  19. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    LOL me too. Ugh, but that's a whole other thread. My effing kids' dad is a piece of work.
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  20. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    LeighAnn, I was not trying to sound like it was doom and gloom. Like I said, I may be one of the exceptions, but I like the fact that bully breeds aren't known to be dog-social. So to me, telling someone this, is not trying to discourage adoption or otherwise.

    OP: your boy may never manifest DA, or he may at around maturity. Socializing with other dogs is important, in a structured environment. Puppy class is a good example and as the dog ages, you can keep in contact with friends you've made in puppy class to meet up at someone's house and let the dogs play, *supervised* for a while.

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