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quick question

Discussion in 'Health & Nutritional Care' started by lizzie13, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    I'd look at online reviews and go from there.

    The nice thing about dremels is you can take the nail a bit shorter after you cut it, and no rough sharp ragged nail edges.

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  2. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog



    Yeah it would be nice to shape them... I will sometimes file them but that is definitely a pain in the ass with a manual file
     
  3. MsAcer

    MsAcer Good Dog

    If your dog is normal standing you do not want the nails touching the ground. That only twists the toe. Just nicing the quick WILL NOT cause infection.
     
  4. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    There is one nail that almost touches when she stands..but that's it...I just don't want to intentionally cause her pain and a bad nail cutting experience
     
  5. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    You cannot say that 'nicking the quick' "will not" cause an infection. Any open wound carries the risk of getting infection. Admittedly, the odds are low, but to say an open wound does not carry the risk of getting infected is a dangerous statement, even given the context. It can never be advised to do something that can medically cause harm to an animal without proper medical guidance and aseptic technique. I understand this is the internet and anyone can say whatever they want, but, in my opinion, this is poor advice.
     
  6. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    +1 if there's blood, there's nerves so it'll sting. I've never been able to push back the growth of nails by clipping, gotta try the dremmel. I would suggest a real one cause i think it has faster RPM so it'll smoothe out the bumps and edges fairly quick. i would strongly suggest getting the dog secured before trying. Also turn on the dremmel and use opposite end and press against dog's nail to get them used to the vibration before actually applying the real thing to get a feel of/for your dog.

    I hate the "pitter, patter" of nails on my marble floor. lol

    Darn, meaning to ask everyone. This is in ref to nails...does anyone have a second nail (scale) grow underneath the actual nail? Ill post picts later
     
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  7. shelby.hemi

    shelby.hemi Puppy

    I groom dogs quite frequently at work, and using a dremel is by far the most effective way to get the quick to receed. I have never had to "hit the quick" in order to make the quick receed faster. Getting close enough to the quick to cause pressure, causes it to receed - NO need to hit it!
     
  8. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    Didn't want to hijack thread...see here Nail, Ingrown, Fungus?

    thx
    -j
     
  9. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog




    Yes I think its not something I want to risk..they aren't that long
     
  10. MsAcer

    MsAcer Good Dog

    Well you're a vet, so I guess you have a strong opinion. But I have never seen in all my 20 plus years of grooming a quicked nail cause a problem.
     
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  11. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    Not a vet.

    I just don't like broad generalizations like that. If you open up the body in a traumatic way and are inviting bacteria into an open wound, you are at risk of infection. It may have never caused problem, it doesn't mean it can't, and you shouldn't tell people that there is no risk. It's the same thing as any other open wound, it just happens to be in a nail instead of on skin.

    No offense meant, just don't want misinformation about infection out there. Something like "It is unlikely a quicked nail will cause an infection" would have been fine, but it is not what you wrote or emphasized.
     
  12. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    Which is why after hitting a quick, you apply styptic powder, an antiseptic clotting agent that can also help shrink the quick. And why in a grooming shop, you cut a dog's nails, apply styptic powder if bleeding occurs, then bathe the dog, which includes the feet.

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  13. lizzie13

    lizzie13 Good Dog

    I heard the styptic powder hurts like a bitch as well...heard corn meal or flour is not painful?
     
  14. omgrobyn

    omgrobyn GRCH Dog

    I've used it on my own cuts. It stings for a second but then it's numb-y. But like all healing related things, the stinging means it's working.

    And you have to use a lot more cornmeal for a bleeding quick than you do styptic powder.

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  15. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    To my knowledge, there exists no antiseptic styptic powder. I'm open to new knowledge, but as far as I know the most common styptic powder (Kwik Stop) functions as an antihemorrhagic and posses no antiseptic properties.
    Name-brand Kwik Stop contains benzocaine to numb the pain, but from what I understand it does burn at first.
     
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  16. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    +1 I was gonna jump in and say that it's used to stop the bleeding since applying pressure on nail is ineffective.
     
  17. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    I have never been able to push Goren's back (there is 1 nail that I have been trying for 2 years, its just longer than the others and I don't like it) I have nicked the quick on that nail by accident a few times but not been able to push it back, I need to start dremeling his nails again, I want to get a new sand paper holder part thing for my dremel (keep forgetting when I am in the feed store). I have ear powder (its the stuff they use to pull ear hairs or whatever if the dog has some that irritate) that works as a quick stop in a pinch.
     
  18. Beki

    Beki Good Dog Premium Member

    I believe it is the copper in quick stop that acts as the antiseptic property. I. Also believe that if it truly did not have antiseptic properties every time a DVM quicked a nail, they would go broke from having to give out an RX for oral antibiotics. But, that is JMO.
    To the OP. YES, on way to get the quicks to recede is by some times barely hitting the quick and then applying quick stop. It causes the blood vessels to recede and draw back. However, it is painful, and can cause a dog to become fearful of having their feet touched.
    The dremmel method works because the vibration of the dremmel caused the quick to recede, it is also believed that walking a dog on concrete will cause the same effect.
    I personally would never advise someone to purposely quick a nail, my veiw of quicking a nail might be someone else's view of performing a show cut without sedation.
    What I do personally do, is have someone assist me during nail trims if I am purposely trying to go as short as possible. By restraining the paw with a really good view of the nail, I will cut the most minute slivers until I see what looks like a bullseye, or the outer casing of the quick, then, I stop.
     
  19. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

  20. PocketPal

    PocketPal Big Dog

    Yes indeed, copper is used after applying first round of antibiotics to marine fish, and if necessary quarantined and applied to kill parasite infestation and second round of antibiotics for secondary infections. Applying copper to a marine tank will kill all invertebrates (worms, shrimps..etc) so caution is applied when using copper because the death of the invertebrates can spike the ammonia and nitrite levels.

    just some useless facts LL
    -j
     

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