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question on showing pup

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by dreece22, Jul 14, 2011.

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  1. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    Why is it a crying shame? The shows are APBT shows. Your opinion is yours to have. I for one am glad they don't encourage the byb turds. Just invites more shitty breeding of shitty dogs IMO.
     
  2. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    how do you breed an altered pet? LOL
     
  3. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    I am referring to the "other' breeds or simply unregistered dogs. duh
     
  4. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    if they do a limited reg they wouldnt have that issue at all given they need proof of the pet being altered
     
  5. JRSPITS

    JRSPITS Big Dog

  6. shadowwolf

    shadowwolf Good Dog

    I wish they had closer IWPA pulls here. The closest ones are in the upper range of the state. Maybe one of these days I'll get to one!

    For real? Boogieman, you don't do any competitive sports with your dogs outside of conformation so you truthfully can't comment on what is 'for real' and what is 'imaginary'.

    I was referring to other breeds being dogs like Sibes, Malamutes, Patterdales, GSDs, etc. that are all welcome to pull in 'real' pulling events put on by the APA and IWPA (and the 'fake' pulls that the UKC holds) and altered dogs that may or may not have papers. It's a good financial move if they ever do it. Many ADBA clubs host 'fun pulls' that allow all breed dogs to compete for separate awards - though I still think a little healthy competition is what people need.
     
  7. bahamutt99

    bahamutt99 Stealth ninja

    It was a humbling experience having Loki's personal best % (on wheels) get beat by a husky when we were pulling IWPA. Agree. Bring on the competition. I don't care if someone shows up and pulls a Cavalier to get their UWP legs. Doesn't make the thousands of pounds that the more serious competitors are pulling any less real. (Ask the cart handlers. I'll bet they'll tell you its real. Real F'in heavy, too. LOL)
     
  8. dreece22

    dreece22 Puppy

    ok thanks to all the people that gave me good quality information and didnt try to bad mouth me or the breeder this is not my first apbt by no means i know its full blooded i didnt get scammed like a few said and i did not over pay for pup. also i was only wonderin about weight pull i know about tail docking be a dq for the standard i also thought it was strange to dock the tails but her pups sell quick people seem to like it but my main concern or question was if i could even enter a show and pull (or just pull)without registration. and anyone who thinks i got scammed i'll show pics

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    if by scammed you mean i purchased a mutt i can post a pic and let you be the judge of that i'm not really worried about breed standard just wanted a new pet for the family maybe interested in weight pullin but wasn't for sure if i could without papers and some said the breeder was not a responsible breeder or she would have had reg. papers lined up to register litter how can you register a pup if both are not same registry??? never bred dogs so i dont know this
     
  9. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Well, without papers, I wouldn't call the dog purebred, since there is no way to know if it is or not. But if you wanted a pet dog, then that's just fine. As others have said, you can compete in WP just fine with an unpapered dog, except ADBA I guess.
     
  10. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    I would love to see pictures, but pictures will not prove that it is an APBT only peds can do that. I have 5 beautiful APBT all have great peds some have amazing peds IMO and all show as a matter fact one is an ADBA CH working on her GRCH and they were all FREE FREE FREE.....A good breeder is happy to see their pups go to good show homes most of the time they would rather give a pup away for FREE to a good show home then to make a buck.

    You day the "breeders" pups sell quick.....Sorry but if this person is producing pups for money reasons only and that appears to be the case with no papers and docking tail they are nothing more then a BYB.....I would be very worried if I was you, I had a very bad experience with a back yard breeder. Early on before I knew anything we had gotten a beautiful pup from a BYB he was great until he reached about 15months old then he became human aggressive that lead to him being put to sleep.

    BYB do not give a rats ass about temperament of the dog and often breed anything that is in heat to whatever is on their yard with out rhyme or reason. This can lead to huge problems later down the road.

    No one is bashing the breeder we are just telling you FACTS and some of us have experience with breeders like this. I have to ask if you were in the market for a show or weight pull dog why did you buy a pup with no papers and a docket tail? You should do your research before getting a pup not after.


     
  11. JRSPITS

    JRSPITS Big Dog

    Tail docking is not a dq in conf, just a fault, big difference. In order for you to show or do wp it needs papers in ADBA. Both parents need to be registered with ADBA and the breeder would need to sign off on the single dog application. If one parent is reg w/UKC, the breeder would need to reg that dog w/ADBA then you could do a single dog application. All the info is online at ADBA
     
  12. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    were telling you why because red flag #1 (and personally you should said NO THANK YOU after you heard it) is tail docking. #2, not dual reg, therefore no paperwork


    not saying your dog is pure or not, were just telling you that is completely ludacris what she said and should have given you huge red flags.
     
  13. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    Shadowwolf you are full of shit as the day is long. First of all there are none, if any very very very few ADBA clubs that do any "fun" pulls. So quit talking out of your ass because you know you're lying.

    BTW when is the next "fun" weight pull in Michigan since so many clubs are holding them hahahahaha You're the president now so you should have all the info LOL. You couldn't even get a sanctioned event together much less put on any fun events. So please try to make people of the forum believe lies. As for healthy competition,

    LOL you or your dogs will never give me any lololol
     
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  14. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Can someone please explain to me (and feel free to start a new thread) how there are "real" pull events and "fake" ones..? I'm not involved in WP, but in the UKC shows I've been to I've seen it done and those dogs are pulling their hearts out. I'm planning on getting Piper into it as soon as I have time to work with her.

    It seems pretty straightforward to me.. dog pulls X amount of weight.. not sure how that can be faked.
     
  15. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    i guess they mean sanctioned vs unsanctioned, though i dont know why it matters. and not to start a debate (not that it hasnt already started LOL) but doesnt UKC have the record for most weight pulled? (its been a while so correct me if im wrong) and honestly i really dont think it should matter WHAT breed enters, because technically, half the pullers in ADBA and UKC and others, arent APBT anyways. whopper wasnt anything close. neither were the others.
     
  16. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    Well the UKC is the only registry I know of that hands out wp titles to dogs that don't even have to win LOL Ask some of the UKC pullers to explain it LOLOL So that's pretty fucking fake to me! ;)
     
  17. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    read their rule book. i do believe they have it done like that because of the amount of different breeds pulling. it would seem unfair to the owner of lets say a pug to lose even though it pulled more % per body weight than the puller who won the most weight pulled...?
     
  18. JRSPITS

    JRSPITS Big Dog

    In ADBA/AADR there are awards for 1st,2nd,3rd in individual weight categories along with most weight pulled.
     
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  19. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    we were on the subject of ukc lol
     
  20. JRSPITS

    JRSPITS Big Dog

    I was aware of that, just saying there are different weights and builds of APBTs and they are judged in weight classes so a pug would never lose to a rotty, AADR is also accepts all breeds in WP, UKC could award points in the same manner if they wanted to.

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    I am not saying UKC titles are bogus, just that it is much, much harder to title a dog in ADBA
     
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