Question about white BT

[AmberABCg]

With all due respect, once one has been blessed with the opportunity to see various bull terriers from South America, North America, Africa, Asia, and Europe in the flesh, then the discussion/opinion on 'bone and substance' will be relevent.

 

[Hucklebutt]

Ok, you think your way, I will think mine, I just dont like how people claim this is some kind of proven scientific fact that the dog is not over weight but built to be like that (as if they put the dog on a diet, fed it less food it would not shrink in the waste line?? :confused::confused. I think, some dogs are built to have a broader chest, and the owners fill it in so the ribs dont stick out from being lean, but cause it to gain weight to look 'normal' in bull terrier conformation. if it was about bone and substance why did the judge write 'needs more weight' on his conformation report? what is substance? what is the definition? what purpose does it serve? is there a chart pointing out the substance in the dogs? how come i only hear about this in BT's but you never hear about a dogs substance from someone with a working dog?

 

[Azelgin]

Getting back on topic: I've owned several white BTs over the years. All of them were standard size. I guess I've been lucky with skin problems as having only one incidence of hives in 30 years. It cleared up on its own and we never did figure out the cause. The only sunburn issues we had were with one female that liked to bake on her back in the sun. She would get burned and peel where there was no fur to protect her skin. She lived to be 13 and did not die from skin cancer. Buck has spent the last 8 years in the Arizona sun and has had no skin problems from it.

I don't own an 80 lb. Bull Terrier, but, Buck wieghed 75 lbs. when this picture was taken, at two years of age. I'm sure he has hit 80 lbs. at some point in his life. Tomorrow is his 10th birthday.

:p

 

[Bullful]

Sounds very much like the rants of another. Danielle, you very rarely have an original point to make when the discussion of both "substance" and "type" are discussed. I am willing to bet that you still have not read all the sites that were posted to assist you in furthering your knowledge of the breed. If you prefer a lightly boned and thin (read athletic) dog, so be it, but do not say that well muscled, larger dogs with substance do not exist.

Hey Danielle... PeeWee Herman or Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not much fat on either of them. Which one had some substance?

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"if it was about bone and substance why did the judge write 'needs more weight' on his conformation report? "
Take a look at recent photos of some actresses and ask yourself the
same question. Ribs and shoulder blades sticking out, boney chests, sunken face. Some find it attractive yet most think they have an eating disorder.
Is there not a difference in the athletic bodies of both marathon runners and weight lifters?

"What is substance? what is the definition?"
I think I have posted the answer to your questions on more than a couple of occasions. Have you a dictionary near'by'?
Once again... short and to the point....from Webster's New World Dictionary.......solid or substantial quality.

Hope this helps!

 

[Azelgin]

With all due respect, once one has been blessed with the opportunity to see various bull terriers from South America, North America, Africa, Asia, and Europe in the flesh, then the discussion/opinion on 'bone and substance' will be relevent.

Actually, I've seen it in just one litter. Buck wasn't my first choice. I really wanted Clive. Out of the nine pups, he stood out above the rest. Linda had special plans for him, so we took Buck, the rambunctious one of the bunch. Buck just wasn't born with bone and substance, like Clive was. But, Buck is still special. Friends tell me that if he were a child, he would be riding the "special" bus to school.

I'm sure Amber and Tom know who Clive is.

 

[Rogue Bullies]

"Hey Danielle... PeeWee Herman or Arnold Schwarzenegger. Not much fat on either of them. Which one had some substance?"

LMAO.

 

[Hucklebutt]

you guys go ahead and think that way, I will choose to agree with what clueless has said about the topic of 'substance' and 'bone' and im not going to argue about it anymore, i call it fat, you call it substance. the fat dogs in the ring are not 'healthier' or in better condition than nutt's dog Billy. It's logic, is common sense. A scientist, a veterinarian, will all tell you the same shit. Because the AKC bible or the breed standard says its substance you all can bow down to it....but its just some bull shit someone made up, your all either brain washed, or in denial. STOP TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT! :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:I WILL NEVER AGREE WITH IT! so when you want to argue, go back, read what clueless would say about it because hes better at arguing than me and getting a point across better than me, and argue with your self. :rolleyes:

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i will say what ever i please.

 

[Bullful]

Your use of the "beat the dead horse" icon is so appropriate as many have led you to the watering hole but none have been able to make you drink.
Continue to share your "vast experiences and knowledge" with those seeking further information about the breed.

P.S. Just picked up a black brindle and white bitch that was caught Friday. She had been sighted running wild in the woods for about a week. Looks to be about two to three years old. Going to the vet on Monday. Will check for a chip but I doubt we will find one.
Lovely young girl that does not appear dog aggressive at all yet her ear tips are gone and her legs are covered in bite scars. She has four oozing punctures in her left front leg. She has not whelped a litter as of yet. She doesn't want to go outside for any length of time and loves being in her crate. Five minutes after meeting her she was crawling all over me, kissing and licking, tail going a mile a minute.
DO YOU THINK I SHOULD ADD "PETUNIA" TO MY VERY LIMITED BREEDING PROGRAM?
Her markings are very nice! Her face is half white and half black. Her bite is good and her profile is acceptable. She has no chest and lacks substance however she has no fat on her.
What are your thoughts? I could always make her up as a UKC Champ right?

 

[Hucklebutt]

I dunno Tom, Rogue likes the UKC champs not me.

Azelgin you dont have any more photos of the 75 pounder? Is that the only pic you have? I would like to see more.

 

[Azelgin]

Azelgin you dont have any more photos of the 75 pounder? Is that the only pic you have? I would like to see more.

Yes, I have more, but, with the rude and childish attitude you seem to always have, I don't think satisfying your request is worth my time. I'll just end up reading more of your "Hucklebullshit" if I do. You refuse to listen to anyone but yourself, so what's the point? If anyone else wants to see them, they can PM me and I'll be happy to oblige. Isn't this Fun!?:p

 

[Hucklebutt]

whatever.

 

[Azelgin]

whatever.

Geez, is that all you can say? That has to be the shortest reply in Hucklebutt history. I'm quite dissapointed in you.

 

[Hucklebutt]

yup not worth my time to reply to you. Your simply not worth it to me. From now on, im not going to reply to responses outside the topic for the original threads. If you want to talk to me about other things, feel free to PM me.

 

[Azelgin]

yup not worth my time to reply to you.

But yet, you did

Your simply not worth it to me.

Ouch, I'm so hurt by your lack of caring. Will my sense of self worth ever recover?

From now on, im not going to reply to responses outside the topic for the original threads.

This I GOTTA see!

If you want to talk to me about other things, feel free to PM me.

I have nothing to discuss privately with you, that I wouldn't want others on here to know about. You're the one that started the sidebar discussion when you challanged the report of an 80 lb. Bull Terrier, with no fat. If you're going to go off topic, expect others to follow.

 

[Hucklebutt]

I would prefer to see a 80 pound bull terrier with no fat in person in order to fully believe it, but Im sure its possible, but I would only assume it would have a decent leg length to it. I saw one large bull terrier in the flesh once, I didnt put my hands on him, at the bull terrier gathering in Arizona, he was quite large indeed, but he was also tall, he was probably double the size of my boy, so, maybe he was 70 pounds. He was in great shape, but the owner made a comment towards him gaining some more weight, I dont think that would be healthy for the joints.

 

[Rogue Bullies]

I dunno Tom, Rogue likes the UKC champs not me.

Azelgin you dont have any more photos of the 75 pounder? Is that the only pic you have? I would like to see more.

I like the learner more agile BTs not necessarily the UKC CH. I just thought it was interesting to compare.

I don't know why everyone is getting so upset in here. I just think we should have our opinions on what is right or wrong and respect one another. Educate and share yes, but with respect.

 

[Azelgin]

I like the learner more agile BTs not necessarily the UKC CH. I just thought it was interesting to compare.

Personally, I prefer them a little on the short side and coarse. I would also like to see them smaller. I guess that's because my first one was like that. Everyone always thought he was fat, until they put their hands on him and felt he was all muscle. His name should have been Gristle, because that's what he felt like. Maxium dog in a small package. I will be getting another BT someday, and had even considered a mini. Whatever I decide on, I will only buy a dog with fully health tested parents.

Yes, Buck is really 75 pounds. Even at ten years old.

 

[Bullful]

-He looks great!!!! Best Wishes for many more healthy years together.

 

[Azelgin]

I don't know why everyone is getting so upset in here. I just think we should have our opinions on what is right or wrong and respect one another. Educate and share yes, but with respect.

It seems to be tit for tat. You can't piss on somebody and not expect them to flick you shit. I try not to say anything on here, I wouldn't say face to face. I've been known to confront asshole drivers in parking lots, too. Attitudes seem to change, when they are confronted with reality.

 

[Hucklebutt]

Let me ask something here, is it true some people have there bullies gain weight and try to cover it up as substance?

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