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Puppy backpacks

Discussion in 'Pit Bull Puppy Discussions' started by Lyssa, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    So I was wondering if anyone had options on puppy backpacks? I am considering getting one for pepper for a few reasons. 1) to encourage handling/people socialization. I was hoping to put treats in it for her so that when she engaged in proper greetings friendly strangers could reward her we are working hard to get her to sit for attention and not get jumpy. 2) to prepare her for winter. She is going to have to wear a jacket and (hopefully) if she has positive associations with something in her back she will have an easier transition. 3) I am considering adding a small amount of weight to make walks more of a exercise. She is starting to want to go on longer walks then I have the stamina for yet, we are currently walking close to 2 miles a day in 3 chunks.
    I m kind of new at this so I want yo be sure I'm not missing a reason why I shouldn't do this.
     
  2. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    No weights. The dog is only 4 months old.
     
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  3. leavesofjoy

    leavesofjoy Big Dog Premium Member

    I started Griffin with an empty backpack at about 6 months old, just to get him used to the feeling. I don't think I added any weight until he was around a year, I read that was a good time to start at 5% of his weight. He took to it pretty well, it was associated with going out, hiking, and meeting people, so it was a fun thing for him. Once he got older and I was able to put some weight in it, it helped me by slowing him down and making it easier to hike with him. Ironically, in December I bought him a great tactical-style MOLLE vest that's also a harness, planning on us hiking all summer to get both of us back into shape; but now all the trails are closed so that's not happening.

    One thing I noticed when I was shopping for backpacks is that many of them are just not set up that well. It's important to find one that puts the weight forward, so it's hanging off the shoulders. Most of the ones I saw were over the back & waist, which isn't good for the spine or hips.
     
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  4. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    Ok no weights yet. Treats first, with positive associations. We re in the middle of getting our yard fenced and I have a flirt pole is on the way for post walk play too. Could you post a pic of you backpack so I know what I'm looking for please. Is a year the appropriate age to start with the weights though, I was hopping we could start around winter time. It gets very cold and wet here so I'd like to maximum walks then, its is safe oc.
     
  5. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Please go slow with the weights. Your dog's bones are still growing. Don't do weights until a year old and even then, start out very slow
     
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  6. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    Ok. Might skip the weights then. Its was only a thought to get more exercise out of walks, she has way more stamina then I expected out of such a young dog. We do 6-8 blocks , 2 of those at a solid jog 3x-4x a day. That's my max atm (I know I'm not in the greatest of shape, but I hoped to have more of a ramp up) and that seems more like a warm up then a complete exercise for her. I have to pass her off to the kids for tug of war and fetch for another 1/2 hour ish. Hopefully once the backyard is fenced, I ll be able to keep up better. I assume that's normal for her size and breed? I'm also worried about winter (I tend to overthink things clearly) at her current activity level. Pepper is oddly prissy. She hates going out in the wet, so I'm already considering what I'm going to do then.
     
  7. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    how high will the fence be? Also, this breed needs exercise. A tired dog is a happy dog.
     
  8. leavesofjoy

    leavesofjoy Big Dog Premium Member

    When my boy was a pup, I found it basically impossible to wear him out through physical exercise alone. I used a treadmill, and if 15 minutes on it was enough one day, he would need 20 minutes a few days later. The physical exercise is important, and will really help with physical and behavioural health, but what truly wore Griffin out when he was little was mental exercise.

    I don't know how much other training you're doing, but for us, learning silly tricks with clicker training was a great help! After just a short session of that, he'd stagger off to his crate, exhausted, to sleep for a couple hours. It was fun for both of us, and something we still do, nearly 7 years later. We also used puzzle toys, for treats and for his food, and many other mental challenges throughout the day.

    Also, Griffin is still super prissy about going out in the cold or wet, we call him "Princess Pretty Paws" because he acts like he's walking on lava when it's raining. So that seems normal, from my experience!
     
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  9. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    It's just a 4 foot vinyl picket. She's not an outside dog. I do want to be able to unleash her but she won't ever be outside unsupervised. She's 4 mo, but we ve tried to be super proacyive on training, especially since she is clearly going to be a big girl. She has very good leash manners, and we have what I think is a good routeen. In terms of commands, we are about done with the basics to be outside: sit, lay down, come, wait, stay here, leave it, drop it, up, take it, down, walk, jog are solid and we focus on reinforcing them during play time so that she is prioritizes them in exciting situations. her in house training time is mostly just introducing new commands and short intense bouts of the touch game (chained commands and hand touches) as we are trying to introduce command patterns, if that makes sense. Mostly though we use higher energy outside time focused on socialization and more advanced commands like around, through, over, (say) bye-bye, (say) hello, go find (name). I've tried about adding puzzle games, but she is not particularly packaged treat motivated, I use lean deli/ boiled meat in high difficulty training, and verbal/ sound cues for feedback markers in mist standard situations. Mostly it's just getting to keep doing the thing she wants to do. Basically we run around the neighborhood exposing her to all the things while I guide her using commands, at my top speed (clearly this is less then hers). Seeking out any potential friends (dog or human). Then we come home and the kids play as hard as possible on leash (the only time she's on a retractable) till she s done. Then she eats, Poops, and snuggle/ chew/ sleeps. Then we do it again in 3 hours. Im not complaining, it is a little more time consuming then I thought. 2-4 hours seemed to be reasonable based on what I'd heard, but we re spending more like 6. I have it right now cause I'm at home, but in 2 months it might be harder.
     
  10. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Try raw carrots or string beans for the treats. It's healthier. But the choice is yours. I'm glad she will be supervised when outside because that fence would never keep her contained if she gets focused on something outside of that fence.
     
  11. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    No, it won't. She is good about respecting boundaries, but I try to be aware that she can force most of them if she so chooses, the ones in the house are 3 foot walk through gates, and atm we are using a 4 foot tall walkthrough play pen for chilling off leash in the yard. We sit in a patio chair next to her. I may consider putting in a kennel run for her at a later date, but I want her to be at least a year to be sure she is ready for the freedom. There are a lot of dogs in our area that are "outside dogs" (poorly trained/ socialized and barkey) so I dont want her leaning bad habits. Honestly I hadn't planned in letting her off leash at all till 6mo, even in a fenced yard, but her size/ activity lvl and willingness to mind accelerated the timeline.
     
  12. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    I ll be honest the meat for training is laziness on my part, (packaged) treats are harder to research then food, and it was a safe bet she wouldn't have any allergies to it. it also doesn't seem to interfere with her eating appropriate amounts of her kibble. I did try sweet potatoe fries, and they were a bust. Any recommendations would be welcome.
     
  13. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Carrots or string beans for the treats.
    As far as the fence goes, do as you wish.
     
  14. dogeatdog

    dogeatdog Good Dog

    For positive socialization , could try puppy class , even visit dog friendly stores where staff give dogs treats or visit the vet get a treat and a weigh in too. My dog still hunts down the employees in pet stores and sits in front of them til they cough up a treat for her. Puppies usually just love people so the more nice ones you met the better. As for jackets i haven't met one of these dogs yet that doesn't like a jacket :)) and it doesn't even get that cold where i live. Personally i wouldn't exercise my pup hard until fully grown I use the rule 5 minutes per month of age up to twice day.
     
  15. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    She has hit a bad teething patch, and I think maybe the wierd play time post walk was to tire herself out. Maybe? We've had to switch up to wetter food and she just wants to chew and drool and sleep and drool. After running off her energy while drooling. Unfortunately not many places allow pets atm, I sometimes chill with her in the grass while my husband shops. I thought a backpack might make her more approachable. We do take weekly trips to Petco, she gets so excited. She's getting big quick (31lbs yesterday.. that's 3.5 lbs in the last week.) So I m tring to really double down on the sit for attention, no jumping. Next week I have a 1 on 1 class scheduled. Its basically a play date with an older dog who will help her learn to behave like a dog not a puppy. Places are still getting thier socialization classes going, and behavior issues take priority atm so I'm not sure how soon we ll get another chance. There are a lot of those from what I hear.
     
  16. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Where is the class taking place? And what are you feeding at the moment?
     
  17. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    Taste of the wild puppy kibble and baby blue wet patte cups. I was mixing 1 cup (2servings) with 1 cup (1 serving) 3x a day. Now I'm doing 1/2 cup of the kibble and 2 of cups. She doesn't want to chew the kibble as much. I do sometimes add plain rice or plain Greek yougart (small amounts) a couple times a week, usually when she hits growth spurts and needs 2nds or a before bed snack. we had some early tummy difficulty with training treats and that seemed to help.
     
  18. Lyssa

    Lyssa Puppy

    The class is at the shelter where we got her. They only have so many dogs that are suitable for first meetings with her due to her size/breed and there is a back log from being closed for the last few months. Hopefully if everything goes well we'll have more options. They are trying to sort dogs into larger play/socialization groups but that's still a month or so away. My mom got in a puppy obedience class for last week because her dog is (3 mo chug) is getting people aggressive for instance.
     

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