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Positive Potty Training Tips

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Drgnrdr, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. JokerGirl

    JokerGirl Big Dog

    Wow, you're fast! Thanks!

    She's been getting praise, a treat, and a small walk whenever she goes potty outside.

    When she had the accident without letting us know the other day, she had been out not more than an hour earlier and had had a solid poop no problem, so I figured her tummy was feeling better from the night before.

    She's only been with us since June 7th, so it's still a learning process for all of us.

    I'll work on trying to get her to nudge me or paw me when she needs out.
     
  2. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    she's still learning, you'll need to teach her the nudge or paw, on you by making her do it and when she does, take her out, treat should come right after potty, then praise, if she wants a walk then that can be extra reward also, she may have gotten something outside? eatne or ??
    or she just may have a tummy ache did she eat grass at anytime? those surprises are not fun. you need to go 2 months no accidents to declare her potty trained, if she still has diarhea, after a couple of days, ask, call or take her in for a check, we don't want her to get dehydrated
     
  3. JokerGirl

    JokerGirl Big Dog

    It's funny you mention the grass thing because I talked to the vet about it already. She will eat grass at any given chance, and has had some diarrhea problems when we first got her as well. The vet thinks she's probably just got a sensitive stomach, hence why we're going to have to be careful with what she gets. The diarrhea has rarely been constant enough for her to get dehydrated, luckily. She usually has one bout of it outside and then is done.
     
  4. Another thing that I didn't see addressed was a question of the size of the cage. I've heard that if a crate is too big, a dog will eliminate in one side, and sleep in the other. A typical crate should be big enough for the dog to sit down, stand, turn around, and lay down in, not much bigger. This could be part of your problem. If it seems that this might be the case, invest in a cage that comes with a divider that can be moved or removed as the dog grows, or find some sort of barrier that you can set up inside the cage to limit its size. I hope this helps!
     
  5. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    trska: thank you there is a crate training thread in this section also,
    but not going in their crate because it's small enough is a myth, if they have to go cause you left them in too long, they will go, so the whole point would be to not leave them in to long, if your gone for a long time ( one hr for every month they are up to 6 months old, during the day) use a dog proof room cause they are going to have to go might as well have them go outside the crate then in it and sitting in the mess
    so a 12 week old pup that has gone potty really well and then put in the crate can maybe hold it 3 hours while your gone during the day, depending on how much water they drank before they went in to how much they drink while you're gone. these are all factors to consider when potty training.
     
  6. JokerGirl

    JokerGirl Big Dog

    Just wanted to say thanks! :bananagirl::bananagirl:
    It's been almost 2 months since her crate explosion in the kitchen, and we have had 0 accidents!:stars:

    I've finally picked up on what her poo-dance is which helps tremendously. She'll get up, walk over, look at me, walk towards the nearest doorway, walks back, and looks at me again. She'll repeat that until I finally clue in. I'm getting faster about it every time.

    She's been on antibiotics the last couple of weeks, so she's had an upset tummy off and on, and even then, no accidents!

    I think we're finally figuring each other out! :cheerleader2::party:
     
  7. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    that's great!!
    your welcome sometimes I wonder if I am even helping
    Like yesterday had a guy not wanting to listen to any reasoning, it gets me down..
    thank you for making my day :)
     
  8. Samson

    Samson Puppy

    My puppy is 9 weeks old and for the most part he uses the potty pads. He has had accidents (if you want to call them accidents or on purpose) around the house. Lately he is chewing up his potty pad when we leave him alone. The pads are soiled with pee and he just shreds them up and takes them into his crate. He is also peeing on his pillow and today I bought him a new pillow and he peed twice on it. What can I do? He's too young to be marking his territory, right?
     
  9. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    he sounds bored and being a pup at 9 weeks you can't expect him to hold it for long
    supervise him he's not allowed to roam alone, read the potty tips first
    what do you mean peeing on his pillow, not enough info, are you leaving the pillows with him in is dog proof room? or peeing in the cate on his pillows? HAve you saturated them with Petzyme or Nature's Miracle? How often does he pee?, how much water does he drink? does he have acces to it all the time when your there and when you leave? HAve you had a urinalysis done if he's peeing alot?
    Read the tips first then ask questions if you need clarification, see if there is anything your not doing or doing but maybe needs tweaking a bit, then tell me the story please.
     
  10. Samson

    Samson Puppy

    My puppy is 13 weeks old and is using pads inside. when he is left alone in an isolated room he has been tearing up the pads to shreds and dragging it onto his pillow which most times is full of pee. Why is he doing this? Bored? Mad?
     
  11. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    probably just bored,puppies have fun shredding stuff.Alot of people (myself included) dont like pee pads for potty training because they dont want the dog to think its acceptable to go inside the house at all.Personally I would scrap the pee pads and just train him to go stricktly outside.
     
  12. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    I agree sounds bored. You have not answered my questions, did you read the training thread ? okay, so try this:
    get to a 1 hour potty training class, Petsmart has them at $15 no dog to class just you
    you get a free book after class that has all the info in there to read so you don't have to take notes, it's the ability to ask the trainer your unique situation that will be invaluable (depending on the trainer of course there are good ones and bad ones in the stores) don't know what area of sacto you live in so I can see where you could maybe find a decent one, the Watt ave cross street Arden, area; has some of the best, it also has the District Trainer assigned there.
    13 weeks can not hold it long and should not be expected too.
     
  13. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Guinness was having some potty issues at my boyfreinds house he learned very quickly to go to the door and dance around to go out but at my house he wasnt going to the door all of the time even though i was very consistant i figured it was becuase we live in an upstairs apartment and i would carry him down the stairs so i have been practicing him going down the stairs himself and i also am teaching him how to use a doggy door bell and it has been very effective now he knows were to go to go potty.
     
  14. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    congrats charity, keep up the good work, sometimes the smallest adjustment, (walking him out not carry) can make the difference.
     
  15. AggieBull

    AggieBull Puppy

    Night and Day

    Thanks for the great tips. Our new pup is about 4 months old. We have had her in our place for a week. Her potty training is a mixed bag so far. She is great at holding it for the entire night and promptly goes when taken outside first thing in the morning (this seems to indicate that she knows she should only go outside).

    The downside is that she has accidents inside at night, usually around 8pm or so. We feed her twice a day, in the morning at 7am and at night between 5:30 and 6. We always walk her after both meals (and often once in between).

    Her foster mother only fed her once a day. Do you think her night time accidents are due to the change in feeding routine?

    What puzzles us the most is that last night I saw her sniffing near the door so I took her outside. She did nothing for ten minutes. I brought her back in and 10 mins later she pooped in the dining room.

    Any advice is much appreciated.
     
  16. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    It might her system needs to adjust to not having to break down ALL that food that was given once a day, it's better on the digestive stuff if you split it in 2 meals, good for you for doing so.
    it's more likely that you're not supervising her after coming in.
    Was she completely potty trained at the foster? they never had any accidents with her which I assume she was there from birth? so weaning at around 5 weeks, she's 4 months now, so 10-11 weeks, she had NO accidents? always went out or on pads like clockwork? Was the mother dog there, she probably helped train them I hope, did they keep her secured in a room or whelping box, or pen area?
    Okay you need to figure out her routine, and supervise, you saw her sniffing at the door, you took her out, she didn't go, but 10 min later she got away from you and went to the dining room and went, if you had supervised you would have seen her start her potty dance (yes you have to learn that too just like it says in the article), and immeadiately got her back outside where you want her. You have only had her for a week, if the foster did some of the work and tried to get the pups using pads or start to take them out, that helps alot, but I don't know what they did.

    So you gave your own answer in your post:
    Watch them like a hawk,it sounds like you know she needs to go at 8, after feeding and your walk, so watch her and take her out accordingly, walking will cause things to move down hill if you know what I mean;) make sure and don't do strenous exercise or heavy exercise after she eats, it can cause Bloat, be careful.
    http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=5424
    anything else? give me more info or try and supervise and see how it goes, clean up ALL accidents solid and liquid with a enzyme cleaner, Nature's Miracle or Petzyme (sold at all PetSmart stores).
    Good Luck.
     
  17. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    I have a question:
    I read in the original post that the mother teaches the pups to not eliminate where they sleep. Well Lily was found as a stray (alone) at 6 weeks, and they said she'd probably been away from her mother (food source) for at least a week. Perhaps this is why she does not understand the not peeing in her crate thing (it's not the size of the crate, I have a divider in their for proper sizing). She'll just lay in her pee. I've resorted to leaving her out and letting her use puppy pads because I hate coming home to a urine soaked dog, and it's probably not good for her either.
    For reference, she's 6 months old. I know for a fact that she can hold it for at least 6 hours (she sleeps with me at night so she can let me know when she needs to go out).
    When I'm home, she's fine as I can read her, supervise her, and catch her if she's doing something bad. But I'd like to crate her during the day to make my life easier and keep her safe, but it just doesn't seem to be an option.
    Any ideas? Thanks!
     
  18. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    How long have you had her? where was she kept before you got her? Who had her b4 u? Mom actually helps teach them, she has the "instinct" whatever you want to call it, to not soil where she sleeps, mom helps reiterate because as soon as they start to get weaned and get older mom will not clean up (consume their potty) after them, she gets up to go and they follow, she just helps drive it in place to not go where you sleep an eat, but if dogs are kept somewhere they can't get away they will need to go, and they have no choice, this teaches them it's okay to live in your filth, trying to hold it doesn't do any good because humans won't let you out, they get use to smelling and laying in it, they'll get use to it, then the "instinct" is gone.
    If she's holding it for 6 hours at night, when do you pick up the water at night? she can hold it longer at night than during the day.
    if she's going in her crate I would have a room and keep her in if you have to be gone longer than she can hold it during the day, the crate can be in the same area for her. Get her out to go before she can go in it if possible, treat ehr for going out, make sure and clean the crate with an enzyme cleaner, so she doesn't smell it in there. ALL bedding must be soaked in cleaner to get the smell out, washing it with "tide" won't get the smell out.
    I assume you have had a urinalysis done on her within the last few weeks to check for any medical condition.
     
  19. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    I don't know where she came from, other than the street. I've had her since she was about 10 weeks. Before that, she was kept at the animal hospital, obviously in a cage. I'm assuming there were multiple times that she went in her cage while she was there, since she was so young and there was no one to let her out at night.
    I pick up her water at least an hour before we go to bed, but she's not a big water drinker, and I have to regulate her water intake anyway because she's prone to food bloat.
    Let me be clear, she's very good about walking to the door to go out when I'm home and can supervise. I had her in the basement (tile floor, easy to clean) while I was gone, but she started eating the stairs, and I'm renting so that was a bad thing. I also put peepee pads down there, and she got almost 100% on hitting them when I was out for a long time.
    I've always cleaned everything she pees on with nature's miracle, and comet when she poops. It's just like she doesn't understand that she shouldn't pee/poop in her crate. I really want to crate train her because I can't keep leaving her in the basement where she can eat the stairs (yes, I've given her dozens of different kinds of distraction methods and bitter appled where she chews).
    I'm just running out of ideas.
    I didn't think a UA would be necessary since it doesn't seem to be an incontinence issue, more of a behavioral one. And now that I think about it, it's really not a 6hr thing, it's like she actually wakes up every morning at 6am (which is weird because I don't), no matter what time we actually go to bed.
    She gets spayed on tuesday. Perhaps I'll ask my vet what she thinks about a UA.
    Thank you for your help!
     
  20. Drgnrdr

    Drgnrdr Big Dog

    natures miracle and comet don't mix, use NM to clean and soak to get rid of smell.
    It sounds like she's been allowed to go in her confined area since she was little, so the instinct is gone, the only way around that is to leave her in a area and out of her crate, block the stairs with an ex-pen or carpet runner (spikey side up) laid out so she can't get to it until you get home. She needs to be taken out of crate to go, but if someone can't come home for lunch (I assume you're gone for work for 8-9 hours since you haven't said how long she is left unattended) you'll have to leave her in crate longer than she can hold it, or leave her in basement with deterent devices in place, how long a walk do you take what is her exercise routine?
    I need to contemplate this one, I don't have any ideal what your routine is, if you'd like to type it out that would be good. The ex=pen block stairs is what I can think of at this time that's the way I would go if I couldn't come home for lunch and let her out. You'll have to watch when she gets spayed, things get poked around and stretch and pulled, she may have some piddle problems afterwards, until she gets back into shape, it is seen in some females not all. Since she's older, and depends on your vet, I'm not sure
     

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