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Police Brutality??

Discussion in 'Controversial Topic Discussion' started by ReneeMcDougal, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

  2. catchrcall

    catchrcall Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Can't really decide with the information on the video. I'd hate to second guess a cop unless I see what they see. My biggest questions would be what the guy did to push them to the use of deadly force, why the taser didn't work, and why the beanbag had no effect.

    The son in the video looks to be i guess in his thirties, which probably means that the father was at least in his fifties, so why did the nonlethal stuff have no effect, and what did he have on him that meant he couldn't be physically restrained?
     
  3. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    He was 68.
    I'll let the courts decide. Things don't add up enough, that I think judicial process is warranted.
    Rest in Peace Mr Chamberlain
     
  4. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    Yea, certainly one of those cases that seems to have a lot to it. The man is 68..his son was 45..the article seems a lot more media focused where as the video is more just news without as much of the story telling.
     
  5. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    Now does anyone think for one second that after the police initially got that call and responded to it, they told each other "Hey, let's shoot and kill the guy instead of helping him!" "Sounds like a great idea!" :rolleyes:
     
  6. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    ... or that anyone said, "Oh sheet we screwed up, lets cover this !!!" ... that never happens
     
  7. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    How do you screw up first tazering him, then beanbagging him, and finally shooting him? He was shot for a reason and it wasn't to kill him for no reason.
     
  8. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    This was purportedly an (inadvertent) medical situation/response, not a criminal one (may have turned into one, dunno). A 68 year old unarmed man in physical distress(?) was shot and killed. Thankfully around here, at least not yet, first responders don't need to carry shotguns and 9mm pistols. Of course those high speed lead pills do cure a lot of ills I guess. The courts shouldn't have a problem deciding if that was the right prescription or not.
     
  9. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    Our elderly population have used their medical alert buttons when they are being victimized, and d/t the intruder being present they will not speak to the operator. It is called out much like 911 hang up, and officers respond. We do not know all of the actions or possibly lack of actions that took place, from the info presented. So I am just theorizing, its possible the police officers received feedback, or lack of feedback, from the gentleman that warrented them knocking the door down. I am curious as to whether the responding officers were aware of his mental health history. His history might be known to the med. alert company, but unknown to the officers that responded. A breakdown in communication between the med. alert company and the police seems to be a major factor. All in all, it is a sad situation. There will be changes made, it is sad how something tragic must happen first. I do not doubt that the officer who shot the man is not ruminating intensely about the events that day, he is a victim as well. This is just my thoughts, opinion, etc. so far.
     
  10. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    I see someone heard God call out your name when He was handing out common sense and rational thinking. Finally, someone "gets it".
     
  11. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    I like to think so, lol! I served as Columbus Division of Police Women's Auxillary Chaplin, and also have taken care of many with mental health illness. Our population with mental health illness is still inadequately understood, and lack advocates needed in spectrums of the general community. The police department has an Internal Affairs dept., they're not there to cover up, I feel this dept. Is also misunderstood.
    The media is very good at creating illusions, they use good writing and facts, and place them consciously in a "word dance" that drives audiences to read more. Not everyone is aware of it. That is their "work" their "art". The best news reporting IMO is found raw, live... because the reporters' brains fight or flight response prevails over their artistic nature.
     
  12. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    Thank you for the responses, I had hoped to get a few opinions from other people here. My own personal opinion was that the media seems to have taken the story and ran with it. I personally have no experience with the inner workings of law enforcement but I do find the contrasting image painted of them very interesting. Some would have you see shining heroes and white knights while others would have you see killers with a license and no real reason. I like to think about it on a more individual level...each person whether in a uniform or not is still a person.
     
  13. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    Very good topic, I hope to fing out the result of it all. Ty!
     
  14. BILLBKLYN

    BILLBKLYN Good Dog

    The result of it is what I knew it was going to be: Aquittals. The Grand Jury was shown audio and videotape evidence which CLEARLY pointed out that the man was acting irrational and even after being tased and beanbagged, STILL was trying to stab the police. So this morning the Westchester County DA (who's anti-pit bull BTW) announced that the Grand Jury refused to indict the officers based on the evidence.


    Thank God the Courts and not the court of opinions hear cases like this. The general public is just too uninformed and out of the loop when it comes to things like necessary force or the authorities having to take a life.
     
  15. 4girlsgiggling

    4girlsgiggling Big Dog

    Thanks for the update. I agree with your post.
     

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