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Pit Bulls - shattering the myth

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by Michele, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Staff Member Administrator

  2. dickymint

    dickymint Puppy

    Hi, I'm brand new here and have no doubt plenty of people have already said this, but 99% of the time, bad dog behaviour is down to the owner and not the dog breed.
    I have a Presa Canario x Staffordshire Bull Terrier and apart from being stubborn at times and producing farts that smell of hell, she is the most loving dog I've ever owned. Although there was one that me when I thought she could be aggressive...

    My dog loves everyone she meets and is great with other dogs, however when she met my cousin she didn't like him at all. It was an instant dislike and he couldn't go anywhere near her. She was fine with all the other people in the house but not with him and the whole time he was there she was agitated. Never happened before or since with any other person. The funny thing is that I know my cousin is a bit of a dodgy guy. Kind of guy who enjoys watching beheadi videos etc.

    I'm a logical guy who doesn't believe in superstition or ghosts etc but from that moment I do believe that dogs have the ability to sense things that we cannot.

    I'll get back in my box now.
  3. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs OHMUHGERD Staff Member Administrator

    Only thing i don't like about this is the way they use the umbrella term, there is a Pit Bull and it's the American Pit Bull Terrier and it is the ONLY Pit Bull. Outside of that, it's a good sticky :D

    Gonna leave this here also..

  4. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    People always tell me that Tonka is so sweet because she lives with a nice family. I tell them that it is her temperament. She would be sweet no matter what. People think we trained her really well. However, it is just how she is.
  5. Boogie87

    Boogie87 Puppy

    My gram who loves my dogs says the same thing... its bc you raised them right. She also seems to believe that if someone breaks into our house Beau and Duke will protect us. She has a hard time believing the attacker would have a higher chance of being licked to death then actually stopped lol.
  6. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    I don't think it's how their raised, however, I think being raised AND trained properly can HELP with some DA issues...if that makes sense?
    Nick was selective DA. He was great with Rosie & Frankie, but didn't like other dogs. I knew that and trained him that when other dogs were around, he had to focus on me. He could safely be in public, around other dogs without issues, because he was trained.
    Had I not worked on that with him, I wouldn't have felt comfortable taking him in public. He did well enough that he managed to earn his CGC.
  7. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    That is fantastic!
  8. Boogie87

    Boogie87 Puppy

    Thats great truly!
  9. Jordan_w

    Jordan_w Puppy

    Yea I also was misinformed before I got mine 3 years ago. No regrets whatsoever!
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  10. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs OHMUHGERD Staff Member Administrator

    Is the picture not showing in the original post for everyone or is it just me?
  11. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    I see it.
  12. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs OHMUHGERD Staff Member Administrator

    Weird, it's loading fine for me now. Thanks!
  13. Nigayias

    Nigayias Puppy

    Although there attacks are not usually fatal the toy breed dogs bite more people on the average then any of the larger breeds of dogs. LOL
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  14. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Kit, Our new dog, Teddy, is turning out to be like Nick. I'm hoping we can train him the same way. He also has pretty bad separation anxiety.
  15. Kit

    Kit Good Dog

    All it took for Nick was a good "watch me" and for me to be aware of our surroundings. Some dogs he could be around fairly close and was fine, others, he would want to charge for no apparent reason. He only went after a couple dogs with me around. One was an intact made Dobie that whined during our entire first couple beginning agility classes. He charged the dog, and basically knocked him over, which scared the owner more that the dog. The other time was on a walk with him & Rosie. An idiot owner was walking her 2 Ridgebacks. Her male pulled towards my dogs, she dropped her leash, her dog charged for Rosie. Before I could react, Nick blocked the dog and kept him away from Rosie. It was quite a fight, when I got them broke up, I had to tell him to drop the dogs leg, which he did. The dog ran away limping. Nick had blood everywhere, his canine tooth was sticking out, we thought he'd loose it, but no other injuries. Turned out he just had a minor crack in his jawbone and was able to keep his tooth.

    Fortunately none of our dogs has separation anxiety. Unless you count Rikki when we are away from home. I can't leave her with anyone or she'll have a meltdown.
  16. harkarp

    harkarp Puppy

    I guess it all comes down to how a dog is raised and is managed. A bad pitbull is a bad owner.
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  17. Ozy pitbull

    Ozy pitbull Puppy

    Fuckin oath mate if you dont put time into your dogs they are tickin time bombs. Keep them chained up and in yard all there life and they will be fearful anxiety ridden dogs prone to attack. Socialize them 24/7 when in puppy mode
  18. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I’m going to have to disagree there. Socialization is very important, yes, but genetics matter too. This is why you’ll see some dogs that have been horribly mistreated but are still incredibly trusting and friendly, yet dogs that are properly raised and socialized but end up having issues with fear and aggression.

    It’s important to provide proper socialization and training to lay a foundation for a well-rounded dog, but sometimes traits are predetermined and there’s nothing you can do.

    A perfect example would be my two dogs. I raised both of them from 7-8 weeks old, put them each through 12 weeks of obedience training and socialized them heavily, yet they have completely different traits and each have their own “quirks” that I firmly believe are genetic.

    If it was all about how they were raised, why would they mature to be so completely different?
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  19. pitbulldogs

    pitbulldogs OHMUHGERD Staff Member Administrator

    Agree, genetics determine everything in the end. All my dogs have been socialized to the fullest and yet two (APBT's) still hate other dogs, always will no matter how i tried to raise them. I do believe however molding and shaping dogs is a real thing but they are still going to do what the genetics tell them to do.
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  20. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    ^^^ yep. Like BC, I've also had first hand experience with a dog that was raised well (rule of Sevens, ob class, plenty of exercise and mental stimuli) and in the end, she was still reactive, HA and very hard to handle for everyone other than me.
    Not to say socialization and training is not important, it is, but genetics play a major role as well.

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