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Paying a high Price for a dog.

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by foxman, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. foxman

    foxman Puppy

    I'm an old dogman with almost 50 years with pitbulls. When I was a young man. Earl Tudor told me the dogs he paid for that he thought were high priced. Turned out to be the sorriest. The dogs he bought that were reasonably priced were next to the best ones he acquired. The ones he acquired free ended up being the best ones. Someone read this on my web at http://rayfox6.tripod.com . They called me and said a famous dogman from back east said if you don't pay $5000 for a dog you will not get a good one. I think he made that statement so he could get more for his dogs. Of course this is a different time and dogs are used for different reasons. I have also found what Earl Tudor said to be the truth. Randy Fox
     
  2. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Its been discussed before. The consensus seems to be that if you pay more than a few hundred you are getting ripped off as there are plenty well bred APBT for that price and plenty more in shelters for less. The only people I know of who pay $1000-$2000 or more for a dog are fools buying Am Bullies. I guess big headed blue hippos who can't breathe are all the rage to those with a lot of money to burn, lol. No offense intended to those who have decent Am Bullies :)
     
  3. Schwe

    Schwe Good Dog

    I think that well-bred dogs (usually coming from good, respectable & responsible breeders) that are true working prospects aren't sold to just anyone that can pay the tab. Those breeders that truly care about their dogs achieving their potential would rather place their dog for a reduced price or free. I haven't paid "sticker price" for my last two dogs from breeders because they know that I am a good home that will seriously work the dogs.
     
  4. foxman

    foxman Puppy

    I don't know if anyone has ever given any thought but a dog has no idea what he or she cost. So no matter what was paid for her or him. They think they are the most important dog in the yard and it is my job for them to keep that thought.
     
  5. samuel64

    samuel64 Big Dog

    I didn't pay anything for my dog and he is so smart, loyal ,and handsome. I think Earl was a pretty smart fella!
     
  6. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    I just culled the dog I paid the most money for. My best dogs have all been free or I paid barely anything for them. Dogs are a crap shoot whether you pay a dollor or a thousand dollars.
     
  7. Adrianne

    Adrianne Big Dog

    The dogs I've bought are much better suited to what I got them for than the rescues I've had. That said we were rather careful in our quest and we not accepting validity at being purebred alone. I'd happily pay upwards of 1,500 for the right dog for my desires. However my pets were free and make fabulous companions.

    In the end I think it's about what you want and you get what you pay for if you're researching is on par.
     
  8. FrostFell

    FrostFell Puppy

    There are dozens, probably hundreds, of AKC Staff and UKC APBT breeders charging just as much, if not more, than most bully breeders. I was recently told $8000 per pup from a well known UKC/ADBA breeder with blacks and RRN (not naming names, but I almost choked on my coffee when those words passed their lips)

    Don't paint everyone with the same brush. *I* charge less than most show breeders.

    The vast majority of health testing and titling breeders charge from 1000-1500, with some specific pups being higher or lower. It seems 1200 is "standard middle line" for show or working stuff

    Of course backwoods gamedog breeders with handwritten peds and 50 dogs on chains out back, no matter how amazing their stock, are charging like 300 or free-- is this what you mean by "reasonable"?
     
  9. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    I think that's what's meant by "the best dogs are cheaper".
     
  10. In perspective foxman, everything in Oklahoma is cheaper than the rest of the country. But there are few actually great breeders here, some of the big name kennels hide some nasty little secrets from buyers and AKC. A lot of BYB here and too many "pit mixes" to speak of. But I agree that here in Oklahoma, you don't have to pay much for a well bred dog. BTW, the best cattle dog I ever saw was a Shar-Pei! Go figure.
     
  11. VonKromeHaus

    VonKromeHaus Good Dog

    I think it is a very subjective subject. Depends on the dog and what you are looking for etc. In my case, my first APBT/AST was free. She was better than any other dog I've ever owned and I miss her TONS. She did however have some temperament problems.

    My working GSD I didn't pay anywhere near what his price was because his breeder knew that he'd be worked and titled and well taken care of.

    My new little APBT was given to me because they knew that she would be worked and have something done with her.

    I personally have never paid over $400 for a dog, although I'd pay up to $2500 for the right dog to do sports with. For now, I'll keep something to work off my own GSD when that time comes.
     
  12. ReneeMcDougal

    ReneeMcDougal Good Dog

    Slayer was a 50 $ pup. She is smart, loyal and not a bad looker. I wont pay huge money for a dog, the veterinary costs are too high to dish that amount out for the dog as well.
     
  13. Blaze N' Pits

    Blaze N' Pits Good Dog

    And if those breeders that 'health test' and 'title' their dogs are charging (lets go with the low range) $1000 per pup... and have a litter of 10... they'd get $10,000 by the end of it.
    What breeder in their right mind needs $10,000 off of puppies?
    I've never even heard of a breeder spending $1000 per pup in a litter (which should all be healthy, based off of the fact that the sire and dam should have been health tested before hand)... yes, caring for a litter of pups might be costly... but it sure as hell doesn't cost $10,000 ..... sounds like an ass load of profit $$$$$$$.
     
  14. Team Peanut

    Team Peanut GRCH Dog

    i really like this a lot. means a lot and says everything to me.
     
  15. Cynthia

    Cynthia Good Dog

    Did you just seriously say that?

    Ok like most Am Bully breeders are in it for the dogs. That is a crock of shit. More like the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Some people would rather see their dogs go to responsible homes, working, or show home for free. Then to sell to anyone with the highest bid. I know my dogs are not a paycheck.

    Hell I would NEVER buy a dog off someone who makes their living off selling dogs.
     
  16. crimsonghost

    crimsonghost Little Dog

    I'd say whoever would pay anything for a bully, isn't reasonably right in the head.
     
  17. NGK

    NGK Little Dog

    I don't purchace dogs often but every 10 years or so I buy 1 to try an outcross and in most cases I cull or give away the lot. About 15 years ago I bought a pup from a crook named Tanya Reed, it was a well bre Eli dog through Wildside stock or so I was told, it was a 1500$ pup and at that time I had the cash so I figured what the hell. The papers never showed up in the mail, I gave the dog away, later I was told the dog was a cull, so much for high $ dogs...


    On the other hand im greedy with my own stock and do not sell dogs, if someone REALLY wants one they had better show up with a fat wallet.

    For the record I agree with everything Randy has said in this thread and hope that you all take notice when he posts as he is one of the oldest and most educated dogmen ive ever spoken with alive today.

    NGK
     
  18. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    Who you think you're tellin'? lol
     
  19. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    Wow Cliff,those "How to speak moron in thirty days or less" lessons have really paid off! You're fluent now,way to better yourself, homie!
     
  20. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    I'd take a gamebred dog off an old dogman with a handwritten ped before I'd take one off a show breeder. You can health test and walk around a show ring til the end of time, but if the dog doesn't have the stamina, ability and drive to work, its just a pretty dog with some nice papers to put in your files. I guess I am just not for titles and papers unless the titles are in sporting competition.

    I generally have little respect for AKC bred dogs unless I know the breeder is breeding for temperament and working ability and not just the show ring. I generally have little respect for UKC ,ADBA, ABKC etc etc bred dogs that claim APBT unless I know for sure the breeder knows what an AM Bully is and hasn't let any of it get into their APBT lines. Too many people hanging papers and registering Am Bullies as APBT.

    I've driven farther than I care to remember and jumped through some social hoops to get a purebred, registered, pup from health tested and worked parents and never paid more than $175.

    ---------- Post added at 04:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:22 AM ----------

    That was a typo..it was $275. I type like a toddler when I let my nails get long :(
     

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