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Original Head Type - Proper debate placement

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by WorkingBullTerrier, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

    Dont even waste your breath with that clown. He doesn't comprehend what you are talking about.
     
  2. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    Like i said many times ,never liked the parrot type heads ,they just dont sit well with me ,i prefer a good profile but with out an over extreme curve .
    Joes Brando on here has a decent head ,,,anyone got any pics of brandos profile ?
     
  3. Kojac

    Kojac Little Dog

    The most concerning issue is the fact that there is a market of people to scoop up and 'love' the most insanely bred animals out there. Toy dogs (because they're 'cute') Bull-dogs, Neo's - list is ENDLESS) And the maddening aspect of this is that the target market never stop to consider the Big Picture - the very real, unrelenting impact this type of breeding has on the dog, it's health/life... I know I am preeching to the converted, but it would be nice to have the dogs considered more by the average guy on the street. The maybe the target market for this fasionable breeding would die out. As it should!:(
     
  4. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    Thanks for calling my dog shit... I know that's probably not what you meant, but come on. There's more to a dog than being able to run for many miles in the heat...

    I think everyone on here is agreeing that no one likes very extreme heads.

    I also find these debates very useless and tiring. I think it's the constant debates like these that drive away all bull terrier owners from the forum. I think there are like 4 active BT owners on here... I do think it's a little funny we need to defend our dogs on a forum created for our breed of dog.
     
  5. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    I think thats what they want lol,This just a forum to hate on the breed ,its great for a giggle tho lol
     
  6. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Yep....... bye bye now...... :rolleyes:
     
  7. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

    I think people need to learn to be realistic about their dogs. We can't praise something or give false information simply because we don't want to hurt people's feelings. If there are prospective future BT owners researching here why would we want to give out false information about the breed? Most of the people that defend the exaggerations in the BTs are breeders or people that actively show them who need to justify the state of their dog whether it is the exaggerated traits or the level of fat it posses so it fits the standard.

    There are owners that own dogs with exaggerated features that still love their dogs 100% but understand their dogs limitations. This is the main point of a forum and it is to learn, people need to realize that exaggerated traits in any dog breed is not beneficial for the animal. It really is that simple and I do not believe this is insulting to anyone's dogs. I own an American Bully, I know that my dog has structural dispositions that do not allow it to have the athleticism, recovery or energy levels of a performance bred American Pit Bull terrier. Without talking to people that know this stuff I wouldn't have known this and I would have gone around parading around that I own a pit bull when i don't even though his papers say so. Or I would be overfeeding my dog because ignorant people think it's healthy for the dog to look that way.
     
  8. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

    We don't hate anyone, we dislike ignorant people that have zero common sense and no factual information to back up their knowledge like your self. Your family has been around shit dogs since the 1970's if you dare to call a well bred Bull Terrier a Jack Russell. But you see, this is what I mean about ignorance and lack of knowledge. Maybe you were spoon fed this marketing crap since you were little about how a sausage looking dog with a giant deformed head is the right way for a dog to look like. Thankfully you are not allowed to sell dogs here because I am sure that would be your next step after spewing nonsense and defending the show breeders that ruined a good dog for whatever reason.
     
  9. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

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    Are you blind Mr.Pedigree?
     
  10. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    That's because YOU ALL come onto OUR THREADS (threads about normal headed dogs) AND INSULT THEM! If you don't want people to insult your choice of dogs, don't insult theirs!!
     
  11. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    I like them just because they're not so overweight, lol.
     
  12. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    I want a mini BT, but they don't come in blue. But when they do, i'm going to be on that shit like white on rice
     
  13. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    You're correct that's not what I intended, I'm sure your dog is a great pet and companion and if that's what you got him for than he is doing his job.

    I am simply saying that if you breed for looks, you are going to get deformed dogs lacking in health and vitality. And that has surely been true for the Bull Terrier, whether you are breeding for the round head OR breeding in reverse for the normal head. Health and ability has to be the most important things and in Bull Terriers it hasn't been, not for a long, long time.
     
  14. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    I want a red nose ;)
     
  15. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Good Dog

  16. Great posting.

    There is nothing wrong with being honest. If I were new to the breed, I'd want to know the truth and reality on all aspects....no sugar coating, or excuses, or mis-information. If anyone is 'run off' by the truth, well then.......

    To keep allowing people that don't know any better to think that the exaggeration is a GREAT wonderful thing....well that could lead to a dead end road for the breed.

    We all love our dogs here it seems, no doubt about that, but it is what it is. It's hard to get a point across sometimes when folks are SO quick to shut down and automatically go into defense mode right away without even taking into consideration what is being said. We can all learn from eachother, honestly. Being closed minded gets you nowhere. I understand that there are folks that can't communicate properly that are quick to offend people, but when people are actually going about a discussion in a proper 'adult' manner, why still pull the defense/excuse card so quickly? Or go right to the 'stop hating on our dogs' bullcrap. I don't 'hate' on people's dogs....bottom line is my concern is what I feed here in my home.....but I will not put blinders on and pretend that the breed hasn't made such a severe deviation, and not for the better if it keeps going how it's going with those who are in fact breeding for the most extreme profiles.
     
  17. SamThePitbull

    SamThePitbull Good Dog

    Well said guys... I agree with that 100%

    **Tapatalkin' on my tab!**
     
  18. Mrpedigree

    Mrpedigree Big Dog

    I think that my family's background and knowledge in the breed since the 1970s super seeds anything you think you know on anything to do with dogs...best thing for you to do mate is sit down and stfu cause your to sound like a broken record .
     
  19. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    Do they breed any blue ones? I want one
     

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