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Opinion of Pet Smart's puppy training classes.

Discussion in 'Obedience & Sports' started by StevenNeill, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Leslie H

    Leslie H Good Dog

    This is where I was last night. It's a great place w/savvy trainers, and they teach you skills that apply to all kinds of sports and circumstances. My young dog, who is not yet competition ready in agility, did the 5-C class.

    Smartydog Flex Classes

    [TD]5-C foundation training ( formerly our Cross Training class)
    Practice a variety of communication techniques
    Improve your ability to move through a distracting environment
    Improve your dogs confidence in you as well as his/her self confidence
    Develop your dogs Impulse control & ability to over ride environment stimuli.
    & Crazy fun too.
    5-C foundation is built on engaging in successful & fun activities.
  2. FransterDoo

    FransterDoo Big Dog

    I think your whole post is rather overly simplified and especially the disregard that goes into something like the OTCH. Do you read Exercise Finished? It's a very well written obedience blog. The author has done multiple posts about her struggle to get an OTCH on her youngest dog. The third dog she's working toward that goal. and she after discussed how important it is to have a training friend or group.

    You can't do Side-by-side work by yourself. Can't teach passing. You need a very heavy box or some serious weights to make sure it doesn't move. If we're just talking puppy work, you need a holder for restrained recalls.

    I guess you can do the basic tug drive work by yourself and many of us do wall work by ourselves but really - I don't know anyone who does more than that by themselves.
  3. Celestial88

    Celestial88 Good Dog

    Here's a article containing the scientific, behavior based definition of Dominance
    The Dominance Controversy | Philosophy | Dr. Sophia Yin, DVM, MS
  4. canine12

    canine12 Puppy

    watch a few youtube videos, then buy a bite sleeve, pad some carhartts, and pay some crackheads to hold the sleeve for you. you can roll up some newspapers and have the crackheads pretend to attack you....
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 22, 2012
  5. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    My point was that it is possible to do it by yourself. The argument was that is was impossible. It is most definitely possible, however the probability of achieving it increases with help (which is pretty much true for every sport). It is 100% possible to do it by yourself, but why put yourself through the hassel when there are people there to help you? I was simply arguing the point that you can't do it by yourself, which is simply, and possibly over simply according to you, not true.

    They own 13 dogs, half of which play flyball. They have 2 boxes and 3+ rings worth of jumps. They can and do train by themselves. Most of what they do by themselves is teaching the dogs to work together. They typically do power jumping, and the puppies (which are now over a year) do drag racing recalls to a tug (they set themselves up on the boxes, which are stakes to the ground and have 15KG weights in them). Our friend was living with them for a while, and they did passing drills with her and her dogs/puppies for almost 6 months.
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  6. ssmiechowski

    ssmiechowski Big Dog

    Lol, I actually know someone who did this...
    [I'm not suggesting trying this]
  7. FransterDoo

    FransterDoo Big Dog

    What are "drag racing recalls"? Is that recalls from the box to the handler over the jumps or on the flat?

    and see - you've got 2-3 people in these scenarios and that's workable for a lot of drills though 4 is even better. We often work with as little as 3 people.

    My biggest concern (rather that the weenie swinging that was going on by some of the other posters) was a new guy with a new dog - and people are saying he could so teach the dog at home. Getting your reward timing down, learning different techniques, proofing - all of those things work better and faster with a skilled instructor.

    But then again, I believe strongly in going to people who are more skilled than I am in areas of dog training. So that's my bias.
  8. MissKitty

    MissKitty Little Dog

    I don't think anyone said that the OP should teach his dog at home. I doubt any of the posters thus far would suggest that.
    Everyone was riled up and responding to the 'You can't teach a puppy at home. Ever.' comment.
  9. Holy shit, the OP was asking about teaching a puppy basic obedience..... why is everyone acting like he was going to attempt to do protection training or agility training alone at home? This thread is so ANGRY haha.
  10. Kamdon

    Kamdon GRCH Dog

    You wanna come over and show me how bad I've been? :p
  11. Yes I do :)
  12. StevenNeill

    StevenNeill Puppy

    Thank you for that information. This is some of whT I was wanting to know. I have been in contact with K9 Top Class and am still talking to her. I am very kuch interested in advanced training including agility. As far as personal protection I have considered it...but my reason for considering it was so that the pups would respond to commands to STOP attacking if and or when a DA trait might arise. I am very much interested in training clubs but dont know any in the Dallas Fort Worth area. I have been referred to AKC but cant see where that has much to do with trainers, training, or training clubs...maybe I just missed it. I want what is best for my dogs. I want them to work and have fun working and I want them to be the best dogs they can be. I know enough about training to get me in trouble. I want a pro to train all of us. Minor stuff like sit, come, and whatnot I can do given time. That is not enough.
  13. Leslie H

    Leslie H Good Dog


    How about this place? I don't know of them personally, but I like what they have to say on their website, and they've accomplished a fair amount in agility. Also, they're competing with an off breed (not a border collie or aussie), so they shouldn't have an issue w/an apbt.
  14. phillysmom

    phillysmom Good Dog

    I just wanted to say, K9Love, has the best, well balanced, rational, common sense posts in this thread!!:doggyhug2:
  15. K9 Love

    K9 Love Good Dog

    Leslie and CrazyK9's have posted a few facilities that I briefly looked at their pages and they all look awesome! Sometimes I hate these threads because I find myself yearning to go to classes at these places too! :lol: The super cool agility courses that was in one of the links looks like a blast!

    phillysmom, can you tell my dh that I'm not a looney?! ;) LOL
  16. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    All the links I posted are groups that I have heard good things about or seen in person.
    I live in the area so they are all groups I would go to :)
  17. StevenNeill

    StevenNeill Puppy

    I bookmarked those links and will be checking on them.
  18. Leslie H

    Leslie H Good Dog

    You're lucky, it looks like you have some good places to choose from.

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