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Old School Pit Dogs or Bully Style Hybrids?

Discussion in 'Controversial Topic Discussion' started by muvitup, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. muvitup

    muvitup Puppy

    Strong views and bias in certain camps..are the new generation of dogs(post 1980), "Real" pit bulls??
  2. xgarrettxvx

    xgarrettxvx Big Dog

    there are still real pit bulls, i doubt bullies are, but apbt's still exist. I have a couple of catchdog pups who are 7/8 apbt/amstaff and 1/8 am bulldog, pretty excited about them. I also like bandogges. I like some mixes people are doing for purposes, where as the bully people are breeding mixed pet dogs and calling them APBTs
  3. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    American Bullies are as much a pit bull as my beagle is theres no debate here
  4. WhitePitBull#1

    WhitePitBull#1 Little Dog

  5. Fieldmarshal

    Fieldmarshal Big Dog

    Bullies are a new breed, they are not pit bulls, and people should stop calling them as such. Its confusing.
  6. bdcraft

    bdcraft Big Dog

    what are bullies made of cause they sure advertise them as one
  7. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    hybrid? i think you mean mix..A hybrid is like a liger or a wolfdog.
  8. XXX

    XXX Good Dog

    LOL adjecyca... Mix is a "polite" way of saying mutt... thats what American Bullies are... mutts... just like any designer breed.. puggles, and Labradoodles... etc etc
  9. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    Ohh i know all of my pups are mutts, but i've had people get mad at me for calling anothers dog a mutt, so i say mix so people don't get upset.
  10. My pit is Sasha

    My pit is Sasha Good Dog


    Part of the problem is "pit bull" depending on who you talk to is shorthand for APBT, (or for a lot of people) any mix that has some APBT or AST, etc in it, (and for the media) anything that bites someone.

    If people are going to get their shorts in a wad over what name a person uses then everyone needs to get on the same page.

    I call my dog a "pit" because that is what the shelter listed her as, the papers literally say "pitbull terrier". When I was out west all her license paperwork and vet paperwork said "pitbull terrier." Here in the midwest all the paperwork from my vet says "staffordshire bull terrier." She isn't an APBT, she's a mutt. I don't care.

    But until the media and mainstream public can all agree that "pit bull" refers specifically and only to a pure APBT, then arguing about it is a waste of your time.
  11. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Actually, I think the Pit Bull community in general LIKES the term "pit bull" AND the way it is used.

    That way, the "vagueness" argument can be used in legal battles. The way it is used, it DOESN'T apply only to purebreds and it's actually more valuable that way in BSL.

  12. My pit is Sasha

    My pit is Sasha Good Dog

    That makes sense to me, but this thread seemed to be a debate on what is a "pit bull" with some comments that this breed or that breed that gets lumped under the "pit bull" banner aren't "pit bulls."

    So either "pit bull" is a generic term covering the bully breeds in which case an AmBully IS a "pit bull" (I mean it's an APBT/AST cross isn't it?) or "pit bull" is shorthand for a pure APBT only. Either the "new generation" of dogs that have some APBT heritage are "pit bulls" or they aren't. I'm not saying they are APBT's I'm saying "pit bull." If they aren't it seems the "purists" are in the minority but are correct in saying "pit bull" is intended to refer to an APBT only.
  13. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Oh, I know. I consider myself a purist...."Pit Bull" means one thing. It's the APBT.

    But the other definition -- meaning any short-haired, kinda stocky dog, is not going anywhere. It's too useful to too many people.

  14. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    i know it"s an old thread ,but any how. imo a "pit bull" is a bull n terrier or bulldog that is fought in the [] an apbt is a type of bull n terrier or bulldog ,as soon as he steps into the [] he is a "pit bull". the same goes for a stafford or ebt for that matter. "pit bull" describes what a dog does and not what he is !
  15. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    I get so sick of hearing the term "Old School Pit" There is only one PIT and that is the APBT and they are still around and going strong. What idiot coined the term "Old School Pit" Should have their ass kicked right along with those that call their American Bullies *Pit Bulls*
  16. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    celtickarma , you say there is only one "pit", where i would agree that there is only one apbt they are not the only pitbull. heres another take on it ,two people each have a welsh border collie ,one is owned by a hill farmer who works his dog daily , the other is owned by a family who live in the city and is kept as a pet . are they both sheepdogs ?
  17. Lotsapits

    Lotsapits Big Dog

    Oh My. Jacko my lad, when you have had the true APBT for something like 30 yrs, please do let us know your learned opinion.
    One "Pitbull". APBT. Gamebred if I have a choice. Meaning a dog of bloodlines well known to the APBT community from day one. No Blues, Americans, Staffies, Bullies, to be found in the peds.
    Carver, Beaudreaux, Colby, Redboy, Jeep, Loposay, Tudor, Mayfield, Corvino, Virgil, Chinaman, Thibodeaux, OFRN, also known as Lighteners, Heinzl, Patricks, Bolio, Jocko, just to name a few.
  18. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    lotsapits . do you know much about gamedogs outside the usa? what type of dogs would in your vast knowledge call ,barney ,havoc, duke, stormer,dillinger ,red bull, sinbad, ? i dont dispute that there is only one apbt ,what i am saying is that they are not the only game dog on earth ,they are however undoubtabley the most successfull but that is neither here nor there ,ps i got into the dogs in the early 80"s and we have had a few good apbt here in england ,lol are you 100% sure there is no stafford in colby dogs
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  19. bdcraft

    bdcraft Big Dog

    yes they both would sheepdogs. but by what you say if you took a great dane and made it herd sheep it would become a sheepdog
  20. jacko

    jacko Big Dog

    lol . well what would you call a dog that works(herds) sheep?

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