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Discussion in 'American Bully' started by streetdreams5520, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    That Mr. Miagi rings a bell.. is that the ambully that you would kill yourself if it's not true that it was mixed with a frenchie? LOL

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    This is sad but true. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the AmBully fanatics. I have AmBully myself and attend ABKC bully shows when they sanction it in our country. But a part of me really feel it's not right on where this breed is leading, with all the mixing and stuffs. Another part of me really like what I'm seeing. Those frenchie looking like AmBullies, those massive bad ass bully! I have to be honest.. I like it! That's why when we talk about AmBullies.. I've kinda torned into two. I rather talk about gamedogs..
     
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  2. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    There is no such thing as a pocket American Pit Bull Terrier
     
  3. self_made

    self_made Little Dog


    Yea miagi is the assumed ( i dont kow how true it is) french, boston, english, bully. But, hell he feeds it and it feeds the owner well so rock on....lol Yea I don't even go on the abpt side and talk game dogs. I have got warnings on the ambully side talking game dogs so I know I would get band over there talking game dogs. It seem like stuff get heated faster. So I stay over here in cool land.......
     
  4. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    Haha I know.. but that damn boy don't wont grow up! My friend got it straight from Cali Jack himself. But that dog is so damn crazy! @3 months he is already so DA and HA! If it didn't cost too much.. il kick that son of a bitch!
     
  5. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    They can somewhat look alike in some traits, I have yet to meet an AmBully with the drive that an APBT has and if it is a dog like Poppa who has some drive, he may posses some drive but does not have the stamina to maintain like an APBT.

    By temperament I was referring to DA, I have seen few few DA AmBullies and DA is not something that is determined on the owner or how the dog is raised.

    The American Pit Bull Terrier was used in the making of the American Bully but through years of selective breeding they removed some traits to the point that they can no longer be considered even close in my opinion. That is what sets them apart as a separate breed for me not just a watered down version of the APBT.

    I can turn all 4 of our Bullies out on the yard at one time with no worries, I do not own two APBT I can say that about not even the pups. Poppa has drive but nothing in comparison to any of my APBT.

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    HA=dirt nap on my yard .....and if he is just 3 months old and 22lbs that is big for an APBT pup...
     
  6. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    Nope is already 8 mos right now and weigh 22lbs. That's not a typical size for an apbt. Specially he is imported straight from Cali Jack! HA is ok anyways.. I dont think he will be the such a beast as the other dogs I've seen.
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    Now back to Mr. Miagi..

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    Can you say he is not mix? But I dont care.. mix me with that same stuff like you're mixing my shot in the bar, because I like it! :cool:
     
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  7. self_made

    self_made Little Dog

    In a sense a DA dog has a lot to do with the owners. For example take fador inbred kurupt. It is a proven that alot of his offspring are born with DA problems. Every pup I have ever got off him has been that way when first get them. After around 2 or 3 months at the house they usually seem to get straight. Even in the past with my apbt if I took up the time with them and socialize them with other dogs and around the family they have turned out decent. But, I have had one, one of the best looking males I have ever seen IMO. He is heavy inbred eli with jeep and honey. I tried so hard because I wanted him to be a house dog. He was turning on when he first got his little teeth to come in every pup in the litter was like that they even hated eating together. we took him out to stores, parks, everywhere we could think of to socialize him. Tried letting him play with the kids. We tried everything. He is a hard one. He tried attacking the screen door when beetle bugs would hit it in the summer. He doesn't like anything male, female in heat nothing birds, lizards nothing. Got hooked to him and can't put him down or send him off so he is my crazy baby. We just give him his room with the other dogs and give him his own play space and a little house time.

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    Also as far as traits the defined head and muscle in well bred am bullies comes from the apbt/amstaff I think. There aren't that many breeds out there that carries that.
     
  8. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    I agree, I still feel they are just watered down APBT. Because if you would see the big dogs Mayday produce.. they look like Ambullies already with their big heads. We even have the last litter of Ch Coachise and he looks like an American Bulldog. Because he is white with brown spots and sporting a big head with his undershot jaw.
     
  9. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    All of my APBT or all of my dogs for that matter are socialized with people. I learned many years ago APBT do not need nor want doggy friends so it has never bothered me that they do not get along. They will tolerate each other when I am around because they know they have too.
     
  10. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    You got a peds of that heavily bred eli of yours? Can i see?

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    I agree.. specially I have little kids around. I dont house HA dogs anymore.. because I can't tolerate them anymore. I just farm them out to some dogman who knows what they are doing. Basically for HA dogs.. you will just have to treat them like they are wild animals and you don't trust them. You give them exercise they need.. food and shelter they need.. but never let down your guard.

    I dont even trust any gamedogs near my kids. I only trust them to my AmBully but still under supervision. I kinda scare them that the dogs might bite them so they shouldn't come near any dogs. But my little girl is still curious no matter what I tell her. She still come to my dogs.. I know my gamedogs will not hurt her it's just that since I have access with all type of gamedogs she might encounter an HA dog from one of my friends and think it's like our dog who is very sociable with people. I just dont want to take that risk.
     
  11. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard...There is only one good place for a HA dog and that is DEAD!!!

    WTH...Really? I trust all my dogs around kids ALL my dogs!!! If not they would be DEAD! (the dog not the kid)

    Wow I have nothing else too add too the rest of your post....back on topic please
     
  12. Rain

    Rain Little Dog

    I'll reply to you in PM

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  13. U CANT SAY DRIVE NOR TEMP(SOME APBT DONT HAVE ALOT OF DRIVE)so u will sit here and tell me ambulLy DOESNT look alike?
    OK OK IF THEY DONT LOOK ALIKE ....do they look like amstaff? ok ok do amstaffs look like apbt?

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    right on the money!...

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    the sire to my puppy is akc amstaff bred but is triple reg'd

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    there are alot of da ha apbt...also
    and apbt with without alot of drive
     
  14. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    Never said there wasn't just not on my yard :)

    Does this look alike to you....
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  15. YES THEY DO! :o
     
  16. CelticKarma

    CelticKarma Good Dog

    Alrighty then :)
     
  17. self_made

    self_made Little Dog

    Hate to keep getting off topic but, just had to post this CLEAR PM SPACE......lol Celtic promise no more off topic.......:o
     
  18. Blaze N' Pits

    Blaze N' Pits Good Dog

    By 'paperhung peds' in my original quote.... I meant the AmBullys that are not just APBT/AST.

    Like when someone breeds APBT/AST/Frenchie/English Bulldog....
    Then hang the papers to be just APBT/AST...
    They can register them through all 3 registries (ADBA, UKC and ABKC).....
    But they won't make it past registration in ADBA and UKC because they do not have a 'pocket' class to suit....
    ABKC does.
    To me, this is kinda accepting in paper-hung dogs and knowing it.

    If anyone knows, how does say AKC work with the standard Poodle and mini Poodle? Are the standard poodles just slowly bred down over numerous generations until they become 'mini'? Or was another breed mixed to the standard to produce the mini? This is just out of curiousity.
    I thought I heard awhile ago that another breed was mixed to the standard to help produce the mini but everyone in that breed (including the registry) was aware of the mix breeding to create the mini... but again, if anyone knows I'd like some verification or just to read what anyone else may know.

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    These are the obvious mixes I'm talking about.
    Let me guess, this dogs ped. has no more than APBT/AST, it's registered through ABKC and UKC... but only places in the pocket class of the ABKC ..... ? lol
     
  19. SORRY NOT A ALL AMBULLY IS MORE THAN STAFF/APBT....if its ur opinion i unsderstand but you cant state fact!.

    miagi isnt registered through abkc id ont think anymore there has been some speculation that dave reneged his reg
     
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  20. its called breed standard. nothing pocket about them..
     

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