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Need Urgent Adive about a Rescued PitBull

Katdona

Puppy
Hello

I recently rescued a pitbull mix about 8 month ago

His name is Carter, and very great, listens to commands etc


First week we took him to the beach and we were playing with him with a ball and sadly we went home and he started limping. This was when the problems started.

While at the beach, after playing with the ball, we decided to go for a light jog, and during the jog, a dog not on a leash approached us, in front of us, and carter (our dog) attacked the poor golden retriever right away.


The owners were call and didn't call animal control, because clearly their dog wasn't on a leash.

This was when head home, and he started to limp.

We took him to a vet 4 days after, and we realized that he tore his ALC, and he needed surgery. which would cost $1500

We paid for his surgery, and he started the recovery process

During the whole time, he attacked 6-7 different other dogs, thats when we knew he had an aggression problem

We took him to several dog trainers, and none could fix his problem

Apparently Carter has extreme high anxiety issues, and has Extreme DOG FEAR AGGRESSION.

He CANNOT be surrounded by other dogs

He has made friends with 3 extended family dogs, (A Chihuahua, Terrier

mix, Rotweiller/pitbul mix) although he has had fights with all of them,

and he always he has to be supervised around the 3 other dogs.

We have taken him to several <section id="postingbody"><nobr>dog trainers</nobr>, including an in-boarding training center, so they could

heavily socialize him, but no luck. He just can't snap out of it. (He's costs us <nobr>close</nobr> $2000 in training

so they can fix his problem, but nothing. (His obedience is close to perfect though)


We live in an apartment building, and there so many dogs that are not on their leash, and we've had

incidents in which he has tried and sometimes attacked other dogs, and we can't risk it anymore.

The last trainer we took him to is an ex police dog trainer

he had carter for over 2 weeks (in boarding)

and he tried every tick in the books to help him, nothing happened

Yesterday he suggested we get rid of the dog because his a huge liability to us right now

Oh and there have been weird incidents, whenever someone cries, roommates etc or sad, including the owner, he would growl and bark at them, sometimes even want to attack them which is a huge red flag

I would like your in put and advice in this situation

Anyone faced an issue like this

We were thinking of finding a new home for him

someone with a big yard, fenced in, with no other dogs

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BBPITS

Good Dog
Welcome!,you stated that you rescued him 8 mo.ago,how old is he now?.You have also taken him to various trainers to try to "train" the dog aggression out,which cannot be done as it is a characteristic of the breed.All they did was put some label on it.The big problem here is the human aggression (HA),and the advice given by the last trainer,to get "rid" of the dog.You CANNOT re-home an unstable dog that shows any degree of HA,no matter how secure or the size of the yard,the dog has to be put down.There are serious issues here,that can turn into a major liability for you.
 
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NobodyHere

Guest
He CANNOT be surrounded by other dogs

You know American Pit Bull Terriers are a fighting breed, yes? Dog aggression is not an abnormal, or even necessarily negative, trait in APBTs. It just is what it is. It's the job of the APBT owner to keep their DA dog away from other dogs when possible and avoid situations where an incident is likely to occur. I would call the apartment manager and complain about the loose dogs, and see if they can do something about getting their owners to keep them inside their own apartments or on leash, since I'm going to go ahead and assume that the apartment complex doesn't allow "free roam" for pets.

Oh and there have been weird incidents, whenever someone cries, roommates etc or sad, including the owner, he would growl and bark at them, sometimes even want to attack them which is a huge red flag

This, however, may be a problem. APBTs should never be human aggressive or exhibit dangerous levels of prey drives toward people. I would hire a veterinary behaviorist, since there is a chance you could be misinterpreting play or some other behavior for aggression, but if the dog is genuinely found to be dangerous toward people, the dog should be euthanized.
 
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Obed

Good Dog
Premium Member
If it is indeed Human Aggressive, do not rehome it, put it down.
DA is normal and would justify rehoming if YOU can not deal with it, it is NOT a defect in the dog.
 

Tiffseagles

GRCH Dog
Premium Member
Management ideas for dog aggression:
1) Muzzle train him
2) Report loose dogs to the property owner/manager
3) Report loose dogs while you are out to animal control (or whoever's responsibility it is in your area)
4) Carry an object - stick, spray, etc. - to keep loose dogs away from you
5) Take your dog to places where there aren't many other dogs for exercise/potty breaks

he would growl and bark at them, sometimes even want to attack them which is a huge red flag

If the shelter told you that this dog barks/growls/attacks people when they cry, would you have adopted him? If not, why? Now ask yourself if it's fair to ask anyone else to take on that risk (knowingly or otherwise). If it is a red flag to you, why would you put someone's safety at risk by rehoming this dog?

Just remember: you posted this on a public forum. If you rehome this dog and it hurts someone, you may be liable. This post can be used as proof of you knowing about aggressive behavior. If you rehome this dog, I highly suggest hiring a lawyer to write a liability waiver.

If you are now rethinking his behavior and have changed your mind that he may not be aggressive, you need to hire a professional to confirm that. Do not hire an ex-police dog trainer. Do not hire the local trainer that works with the shelter or any other trainer for that matter. Hire a veterinary behaviorist. They are the only ones that, guaranteed, have had schooling and have done post graduate work to become board certified. ACVB
 

Cosmic Charlie

Good Dog
Sorry, you need to accept the fact that you own a bull breed and bull breeds have a genetic disposition towards being dog aggressive. They were selectively bred over many generations in hopes of creating the ultimate fighting dog and even though in the US fighting is illegal, bull dogs still carry the same genetic traits they were bred to possess. DA is not something you can train away or get rid of. Dog aggression in bull dogs cannot be trained away, therefore if a trainer tells you otherwise, please run far away. It needs to be managed though and that includes you keeping your dog away from others. I understand you live in an apartment, but you may need to move and find a more suitable location for you and your dog to live safely, both for you, your dog and those around you!. You're wasting money on trainers for an issue that will not be unlearned. If you absolutely cannot move, you will need to find alternative ways to get your dog out of the home safely and away from other dogs that are out of your control. Suggestion one is, put the dog in a crate and carry the dog to the car. Simple, quick, inexpensive and it keeps everyone safe. A secured and properly fit muzzle may be wise in your situation. Do not think this will prevent an incident, because it wont and your dog can still injure another animal with it on. Basket muzzles would be my choice, but other members may be more educated in the lead, collar, harness, muzzle department.

Your dog shouldn't be taken out in areas where other dogs frequent, please try to find a fenced in area, such as a soccer field, tennis court, bball court etc. When you learn how to manage your dog properly you can begin to think about taking him into areas where dogs may be. DA can be managed to the point of being able to walk through a park or through an area with other animals without a major incident. Please be aware of the fact, if you rehome this dog there is a good chance it will be put to sleep by someone else. Most people do not know how to properly manage a DA dog, nor do many want to take on that task of a DA adult. That's not to say there aren't people who would be of assistance. The shelter will not be a wise choice. I understand you need to figure something out and there's good advice on this page by multiple members...take it and use it. Get to managing the behavior and you and your dog will get on just fine.



If your dog is human aggressive in anyway then the solution is euthanization.
By the way a police dog trainer is the worst pick of trainers for someone in your situation.
 
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