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Need advice on moving to newyork with our pitty

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by TJStrolia, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. TJStrolia

    TJStrolia Puppy

    Me and my wife cant stay in one place too long. Its not in our blood. (also I apologize for occasional spelling errors. I am dyslexic.) We have had our pitbull in 2 apartments in Florida with no problems. Our dog, King, is well behaved, has no known history of violence, and ultimately has been loved by each of our landlords. We are planning a move to newyork for work purposes and the dog is here to stay. He is family and is well taken care of with us and we simply refuse to get rid of him.... but we also need to take care of ourselves so we can continue to take care of him and continue providing the lifestyle he has had and deserves to continue having. The good news, we dont need to be IN the city, we just need it to be accessible. We have been looking at long island, brooklyn, yorktown heights, and a few other citys. Despite looking thoroughly, it is proving much more difficult to find a landlord who will allow us to have a pitbull in newyork than it has been in Florida. This is somewhat expected I guess and is somewhat discouraging but it is not going to stop us from doing what we need to do.

    On that note, we have spoken with an apartment broker who is VERY confident he can find plenty of options for us.... except, hes expensive.... almost too expensive for us unless we can pull something from thin air. We are hoping to spend less than $3000 a month on rent, although we would prefer closer to 2500. He seems to believe this is completely doable for a house outside the city (IE about an hour away) or a decent ish sized apartment closer to the city. We are hoping that someone here might have more experience finding apartments where you can have a pitbull in newyork than we do and might be able to offer suggestions of how we can continue with our move and keep taking care of our baby.

    Also, I would hope nobody would suggest this but its happened in the past so I ask that nobody suggests we get rid of our dog. Suggesting I get rid of my dog, to us, is like suggesting someone get rid of their child so they can move. Its simply not happening. Hes our family :)

    I hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season!
    TJ, SS, and King
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  2. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    You're in luck, we have a long time NCY resident on the board and I am sure they will chime in.
    In my opinion, an hour commute, when living outside of a big city like NCY or LA is pretty normal. Shoot, I lived in Cleveland and it took me about 45 - 1 hour to get downtown for work in the morning from the suburb I lived in. Same thing when we lived in Alpharetta, driving into Atlanta, during rush hour was a nightmare and would take about an hour commute as well.
    I think you'd be hard pressed to find a shorter commute without living in NYC limits. But, never lived there, so maybe our NYC native will know differently! :cool:
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  3. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    What borough in the city are you interested in living? My commute into the city is around 45 minutes to an hour on a good day. Depending on where you want to live, the rents vary.
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  4. ETRaven2

    ETRaven2 Big Dog

    OP, just a thought, could you get letters from prior landlords about their experiences with your dog? Does you dog have any obedience titles? CGC? That could also be used in your favor to a landlord that is reluctant to rent to a bull breed.
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  5. TJStrolia

    TJStrolia Puppy

    I dont know exactly what constitutes the different boroughs unfortunately as despite its small size it is a very big place.... The whole situation feels very much like a, once you do it, youll know what your doing, situation. Weve never dont it and it is very overwhelming but I feel like it gets easier later once we understand it better. If you get what I mean by all that. Right now we are staying in Ohio with my family and are just outside Cincinnatti and I definitely understand the hour commute part and I am fine with all of it personally. Just trying not to be 2 hours out or anything like that. Like I said we are looking in the central long isalnd, brooklyn, yonkers, yorktown heights areas right now but are not married to them. We are looking for somthing either a house or where we can make a bit of noise and not worry. Our dog doesnt bark but we are both professionals working in music and occasionally we need to make noise for our jobs which just makes things harder.

    The landlords may be trickey because they were both complexes an the management A, turns over fast, and B, is in NO hurry to help in my experience. Its been 6 months and im sitll waiting for confirmation of my last lease which has already ended now....

    I have not yet looked into somthing like CGC or anything like that but that is very smart and I have considered something along those lines but because ive never had a struggle like this ive sorta put it off. If im going through a private renter in NY, im hoping offering to carry my own liability for the pet and property would help the situation. We have looked into rough estimates of cost and for 100k pet liability and basic protection for the home it would be about $780 a year in newyork which im fine with and might put a landlords mind at ease a little if they know their not liable but still im not sure that will be enough to sway a steadfast opinion :confused:
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  6. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Long Island is expensive. You are better off trying for Brooklyn. The transportation is good there. You can take an express bus into the city or the subway. Do you know whereabouts you are going to be working in Manhattan?
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  7. TJStrolia

    TJStrolia Puppy

    Hey. Sorry for the (very VERY) late reply. Im sorry. I was out of the country on vacation with my wife and I sorta put my phone and internet aside. I dont get to see my in-laws that often. about a 13 hour flight from new-york....... anyway.... It is. We have found some good stuff. Other options not so much..... We discovered another option temporarily which is we found some AB&B owners who may be willing to rent for about 2 months at a time and may allow pitbulls (they claim no breed restrictions) which we could rent and that buys us some time to look but it also allows us time to focus on getting settled in in our jobs which will also open up more doors for renting since we wont have to do things on good faith. A lot of my friends have told me the hardest part of living in newyork is moving there in the first place. I think I am seeing what they mean. A lot of people wont even consider renting to us without proof of work and a new york address.... thats hard since I am a contractor and DONT have a new york address... so its hard to prove that I can pay my rent, even if I have the money for deposits and things like that.

    Anyway. This may have worked out with the AB&B but we want to do our research because the renter may not have the permission to allow pits.... home owners associations and complexes might have rules against it that they just arent mentioning to make a buck.... but pending some research this may be a good temporary option... :)
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  8. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Renting with this breed or even just a dog seems to be getting harder and harder.
    You may have to re-think indulging your wanderlust if you have a dog, even moreso if it "looks" like a Pit Bull (watch for the wording on some of the homeowners insurance clauses some of these landlords have). Your own liability, CGC and approval of your landlord won't mean anything if the insurance guy happens to come by and thinks your dog "looks" dangerous.
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  9. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    That's pretty standard everywhere.
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  10. TJStrolia

    TJStrolia Puppy

    It is but I didnt have a problem in florida because I could show bank statements that show I have necessary income. In new york its proving people really couldnt care less if I made even a whole $1,000,000 a day (I say sarcastically), because they dont even want to see a statement. They just want to know that I have a steady job... Unfortunately I am an AV artist/computer animator and unless I want to go to europe (which is a no go at this time), a lot of my work is in LA, New York, and Canada. Canada is also a no go, and the west wont work for other more personal reasons but take me at my word its a no go as well. New York is somewhere we both really WANT to go and it just so happens to be a big place for work for me.

    Understandably the stigma of aggressive looking dogs is still an issue.... thankfully its loosening up on the noose a little these days but youre absolutely right that its tricky. Thats one reason Im really hoping this AB&B Idea works out because then I have an address I can use for job applications and then once I have my job we can consider ownership of a home outside the city where as the owner I can definitively say my pit bull can be there, and then sell when we are moving again, or rent it out myself.....

    I just sorta hate how much of this we have to play by ear but I guess it is what it is. I would, however, like to thank all of you for the support and ideas. I feel this is more conventional than people like to admit but I think a lot of people give up or just hire a broker for help and at this time I would definitely would like to avoid spending $3500 for someone to help us find a place to live where we will owe another 6000 up front, if it can be avoided.
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  11. Londor

    Londor Puppy

    My partner and I moved out from New York to Texas last year, and we've been through the same situation as you two. I just couldn't imagine living my life without our dog. I received Dolly as a present from my parents after I've griefed for my previous dog's loss for more than a year, and it seemed impossible to just simply start a new life without her. She was like our baby. But since we had to move out because John got a new job in Texas, and the apartment was offered by the new company, and it had a no dogs policy, we just couldn't take her with us. So, yeah, finally the company agreed to take her with us. In the beginning, I hated his new company, but then I started liking them. They were really helpful when we were moving out, and they offered to move our stuff safely by using the services provided by
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  12. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Links to moving companies are not allowed. I removed your link.

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