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Need a little advise - a little long, sorry...

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by meggettin702, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. meggettin702

    meggettin702 Puppy

    Hi everyone, this is my first post, so we will see how it goes. Today on my way home, I saw a pit bull hanging around a gas station about 10 miles from my house. My fiance and I stopped and talked to the people who worked there, and they said the dog had been there for 6 or so days. They would feed it, but they could never catch it. The dog had a collar but no tags. It was a female, a little skinny, and with no wounds that I could see. Well, long story short, we called the dog warden, and had her come help catch the dog. After about 20 minutes, she came up to me (which was surprising, because I didnt have any food with me at the time). She came right up and started wagging her tail and sitting with me, which was nice. We got a leash on her and the dog warden got her into the van. The warden said she would need to hold the dog for 5 days to make sure the owner didnt turn up, and after that, we could have her (for $35 to cover a rabies shot and licensing). I have a daschund (female) at home and 5 cats (all female) already. I really would like to take the pit home also, mainly because I doubt she will be adopted in my area. My question is...with the animals I have already, I don't know if she would get along with them. I have heard bad things about pits and cats, but I never know if it is true. The other thing is I have two daughters (6 and 3), but they were with me today when we caught the dog. Right after we got her on a leash, she tried to hop into my car with my daughters. I know this was a long post, and I am sorry about that, there was just alot of info I had to add. I would appreciate anyone's opinion on the issue. Thanks alot.
     
  2. Diesels Mommy

    Diesels Mommy Little Dog

    Every dog is different, which, will be one thing you want to take into consideration. I've not had any problems yet but that doesn't mean I won't in the future. Here are some threads for you to read.

    Managing A Multi Dog Home
    Crate And Rotate
    Intro To Other Cats/Dogs
    Understanding Prey Drive

    These will help you to get on the right track! I'm sure there are more and more people will post as they see this. Some dogs don't do well with cats however it's not just Pit Bull breeds, any dog with drive can have issues with cats. Diesel was raised with a kitten and him and said kitten (now adult) love each other to death.
     
  3. hogar

    hogar Good Dog

    To start out I would take the kids to the shelter and see the dogs reaction no contact at first just kids near the kennel see how she acts some dogs have a major fear of children and it will normally show right away. You need to understand she may have a slight fear of people so do not confuse that with fear of children. The dog should lose the fear fairly quickly. then have them move closer to the Kennel and talk with the dog and watch the reaction then see if the child touches the kennel wire no fingers in just touch. You need to have complete confidence in the dog around your children before you decide to bring her home even though you will never leave them alone I am sure but a dog that does not have that confidence around children is very dangerous in my opinion and I would never bring them into my house I have kids and will not take that chance. yes you can work with a dog and over come that fear but to me on a dog I have no attachment to its just not worth it also I have been to some shelters that do checks on this but use dolls not real children which is better than nothing but I would want to see for myself first. On the cats being in a shelter I am sure cats are around you should have an idea of what the reaction to cats will be. my Bo (RIP) had a very high prey drive would catch squirrels rabbit anything she could catch in the yard but the cats were fine she never messed with them as a matter of fact I had a kitten that I thought she was going to eat because she had it in her mouth but that became common practice and Bo would pick up the cat and take it to bed and they would sleep together they played chase and got along great. I think she did it to make me suffer I am allergic to cats but both our cats came from our vet they had been taken in to be put down. My ex brought them home
     
  4. Zoe

    Zoe GRCH Dog

    I've taken in TONS of dogs that had no exposure to kids and I approach it VERY carefully. Dogs can do well for the first couple weeks and even months and once they settle in and the ''honeymoon'' phase is over, their true personality may start to show and it isn't always positive so keep that in mind.

    For the first while, maybe weeks, maybe a month, depending on how the dog is reacting, the dogs are never with my kids without a barrier between them. I put a big cage type kennel in the living room or wherever the main action is and just let the dog ''be'' and watch the goings on. The dog will need some time to ''recover'' from the shelter so might sleep alot and that's ok. I choose the cage type crate so I can see all subtle body language. I tell the kids to completely IGNORE the dog. This sets the kids up as head honchos. It can be hard for kids, but MAKE them comply. I made sure I timed everything so I could take the dog outside without the kids {maybe, early in the morning, nap time, and bed time for the kids if you are home alone and can't go outside without the kids} and I work with the dog by myself, maybe playing with a toy, clipping it's nails, touching it all over, seeing it's reaction over food, me taking toys, loud noises, etc... of course always having a breaking stick on hand. Eventually, if the dog passes all this with flying colors, I move on to umbilical leashing or baby gating the dog in a room with me and I get the kids to sit down and watch a movie or essentially in a calmer state. I don't introduce when the kids are all wired up. I just take my time. If I get that unsure feeling, I end the interaction as YOU have to be feeling confident or the dog will pick up on it, as well, if your gut is warning you, LISTEN. Try to keep everything short and sweet. lol I guess you can say I pretty well approach cat and dog intros the same way! lol Just take it slow, don't rush and one sign of being weird to the kids, the dog has to go! Like Hogar said, even if the dog is seemingly great, NEVER leave a child unattended with a dog. If you have to leave the room, bring the dog with you or crate it. Pay close attention to the dogs body language and any signs of stress due to the kids activity, allow the dog to have it's space. You want to orchestrate a positive relationship, not push the dogs buttons when it comes to the kids.

    The shelter system is an AMAZING tool to test the dogs threshold for stress as it IS stressful for them and this breed should be able to hold up to the stress and not fall apart. Make sure you get any info in regards to how the dog behaved at the shelter, was it growling, aggressing in any way to people and if so, do not take the dog home. Better safe than sorry. Many shelters will even cat test so they can give you an idea of the dogs reaction. I do this sometimes by putting a cat in a kennel and having the dog on leash so the dog can't grab the cats limbs if they are sticking out. A muzzle can help to but if the dog is not trained for a muzzle, that's a whole nother training excursion! lol Of course having the dog in the crate and the cats loose will give you some idea, but some dogs will ignore the cat when THEY are crated, but once they are free, they might have a go at them.

    I have two kids that have grown up with this breed, 7 and 13. I've had some amazing experiences but I've also had dogs I've had to euth that did show aggression so be on the ball! As far as the cats I have two and three of the dogs are fine with them, although Tank would for sure kill a strange one, one is good with cats if there is no food involved and the other is good if there are no toys involved. Like the cat really cares about her nylabone! lol

    I'd appoach the intros to your weiner dog pretty well similar to the kids. Take your time. Use management like crate and rotating to keep her safe but even then, don't ever leave them alone together. This breed was selectively bred for dog aggression so it is very common and even buddy dogs can break out in a scrap if stimulated so always monitor, separate when you aren't there, take it slow. I've had dogs here MONTHS before I would even attempt intos to the other dogs. Slower is better IMO as even if they are reactive at first, once the ''newness'' wears off, sometimes they aren't so stimulated to fight.

    In all areas, things can pretty well go any way so be prepared for the worst while setting the whole thing up for your greatest chance of success.
     
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  5. hogar

    hogar Good Dog

    Great Post Zoe
     
  6. meggettin702

    meggettin702 Puppy

    Thanks for all the advice. Now I am just trying to get my fiance to be ok with the idea of bringing her home. He is worried about her with our kids, so we will see how that goes. If anyone has some words of encouragement...I would be happy to have him read them. Thanks alot.
     
  7. Kallysmom

    Kallysmom Puppy

    I can speak to the cat issue a bit. When we adopted Kally, a pitbull mix, all she wanted to do was get to know Tobey D, a 22-toed orange polydactal male cat. Tobey D. was not impressed and did not allow Kally to become close to him. But Tobey D. loves Quincy, a golden retriever, whom he has gotten to know for the last 10 years. Kally did, though, get along beautifully with Freyja, a female 17-year-old cat. When Freyja passed on last year, we got a 3-month-old tuxedo cat, Maggie Shayne. Now Kally just fell in love with Maggie and she literally raised the kitten. They are best friends, and now Tobey D is jealous and wants to befriend Kally as well. In my limited experience, it is the cats who may be more reticent to befriend the playful pits than the other way around.
     
  8. menzie3

    menzie3 Good Dog

    Meg, I have 2 rescue pitbull mixes - one was abused as a pup.. the others history is unknown.. but here are several pictures of the rescue dogs with our kids.. show your hubby.. maybe he will atleast agree to go to the place and see how the dog does with your kids.. but 2 dogs are never the same.. pitbulls are the most friendliest breed around.. getting along with your cats is what I would be worried about.. (mine are cat aggressive).. but you just do not leave them unsupervised.. you crate them if you are not right there with them.. we have 4 dogs (3 pitbulls, a rottie and 2 cats) - as aggressive as my dogs are towards cats.. we are just overly precausious..

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  9. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Pits are wonderful dogs. Smart and willing to please. They can be stubborn and may require patience when training, though. I have a few "I know you want me to sit, but I don't want to sit" moments here and there. More with my American Bulldog than with my APBT. My APBT listens much better than all my kids combined! As long as she understands what I want her to do, she does it.

    I took my APBT , Rita, in when she was over a year and a half old. She is awesome! She has such a sweet and solid temperament. She was owned by my brother and raised around kids of all ages and other dogs, so I have no problems there. She had never been around cats before, so she did a lot of chasing and sniffing mine until she got to know him. She doesn't bother him at all now.

    I don't leave the dogs with the younger kids unsupervised, but I do trust them 110%. I also made sure my kids have nice doggie manners and treat them with respect. The kids even help with general care such as training, leting the dogs in and out for potty, poop scooping (usually when the kid is being punished :) ) feeding and watering, cleaning the crate periodically and keeping the house generally free of debris the dogs might chew.

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    Shortly after we got Rita the whole family took turns being sick. Rita was glued to the side of the sick kid until they recovered and then she went on to the next sick kid. She even took care of me when I was sick,lol. She cuddled and did her best to distract me from how cruddy I felt.

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    I would check her out at the shelter, take her on a few walks with the kids and see how she behaves around them. Then check her out on the cats and see how she relates to your dog. If all goes well, I would keep her for sure!
     
  10. magdalena

    magdalena Good Dog

    I made sure my cats have a gated off room of their own they can go to to get away from the dogs even if I am supervising. I have a very tall baby gate that I put in about 8 inches off the ground, the cats can get under it (or jump it if they have the zoomies) but the dogs can't go under or over it.

    Ruby pretty much ignores the cats except to whine at them if they are play fighting and Puck will only run up to them and lay down now waiting to see if I will let him play with them, usually he gets a smack on the nose (from a cat) for his efforts. But the cats have grown up around dogs so are pretty savvy.

    I'd definitely be more concerned about your kids and other dog. The fact that you'd be having two female dogs may be an issue but a good introduction and constant supervision should generally make things go smoothly. Good luck!
     
  11. meggettin702

    meggettin702 Puppy

    Just went to see the pup

    Well, I just thought I would update everyone. We just got home from seeing the dog at the wardens. She is absolutly the cutest thing ever. She barked when we first walked in, but the minute she saw us, her tail started wagging a mile a minute. She was so happy to see us, the kids especially. I felt so bad when we had to leave, because she wouldn't stop whining. We have decided to keep her, so we get to pick her up Monday after she goes to the vets. The warden said she is only about 6 months old, so she is still a baby. Well, thats about all for now. Thanks for all the advise from everyone
     
  12. APBTlover09

    APBTlover09 GRCH Dog

  13. Diesels Mommy

    Diesels Mommy Little Dog

    Congrats on taking her, thanks so much for rescuing, she sounds like a wonderful girl and remember to post lots of pictures!
     
  14. magdalena

    magdalena Good Dog

    Did you bring your dog along too?
     
  15. APBTlover09

    APBTlover09 GRCH Dog

    please do your homework. they are (pit bull terriers) NOT FOR EVERYONE AND ANYONE.
     
  16. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Congratulations! I hope we see you here often!
     
  17. meggettin702

    meggettin702 Puppy

    Well, we brought Pickle home a few hours ago. Yes, her name is Pickle. She is getting along great with our animals, which I was very surprised about. My doxie wasn't too happy when she first got here, but now they are both laying on the couch, fairly close to each other, so I guess all is ok there. Pickle doesn't really care about my cats, which is great. She just wanted to smell them a little to see what they were all about, but the cats just ran and hid. I actually found one of my young ones hiding behind a curtain in my kitchen (poor thing). She ate a bunch and used the potty outside :D a few times. I wasn't sure how she would be with potty training, but she seems to know not to go in the house (which makes me believe even more that she was previously owned by someone). So all is well at our house so far. Thanks for all the advice. I have done enough procrastinating tonight. I have a 10 page English paper due tomorrow night that I should probably get working on. So thanks again everyone, and once I get a new camera, I will post some pics of her.
     
  18. jadedpitgirl

    jadedpitgirl Puppy

    can't wait to see some pics of "Pickles", LOL!
     

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