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My giants! Flemish giants that is.

Discussion in 'Exotic Mammals' started by Amon Ra Reptiles, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. MsAcer

    MsAcer Good Dog

    They would be excellent dog food also!!!
  2. K9 Love

    K9 Love Good Dog

    I have one bunny, she's little! About the size of one of those guys' heads!

    I can't believe how big they are! I'm not a fan of live feeding snakes, because I'm a softie and can't handle it mostly ( :lol: ), but also because I know it can be dangerous for the snake. The BIL had a snake that lost an eye to live feeding.

    Either way, those are some huge ass, cute bunnies! :D
  3. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    they're cute i currently own one rabbit, and i love her but will never own another rabbit as long as i live
  4. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

    No I'm not a fan of live-feeding either. There is no reason for it unless your snake will starve itself to death before eating prekilled.

    How hard would it be to maintain a run for them? When I keep my rats outside, I just move their enclosure every week or so to keep them clean... But I know a lot of bunny people just keep them on dirt so it's very easy to sweep up poo, and they can have small natural-like burrows too.

    Perhaps it's just me, but I tend to keep anything I know is about to die very nicely. They might not know they're doomed, but I do. They're about to unknowingly sacrifice their whole life for a meal to another animal to keep you happy, I think they deserve it.

  5. adjecyca

    adjecyca Good Dog

    I agree with that, i only feed prekilled, i've fed live to 2 of my snakes once, and it was because one was only fed live when i got it, and he went FOREVER without eating prekilled, i tried rolling the rat in bedding of rats and gerbils, i tried a freshly killed rat and gerbil, nothing, than i just got him a live mouse (i was too afraid a rat would hurt him) and after he ate that he just started accepting prekilled idk why but i am thankful, and the situation with the other snake was similar, but all of my reptiles eat prekilled food!
  6. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

    Well I hear the "How do you think they eat in the wild?" stuff all the time.. But, well, how do you think wild cats eat? Are you going to rip a bird's feathers out and throw it to your cat in a small room..? Or dogs, would you buy a goat or something once-twice a week and lock it up with a few of your hungry dogs? It's natural. But as humans with a high-level of intelligence and resources, it is unnecessary to do to our captive pets.

    This is not aimed at you Amon, just live-feeding in general.
  7. Amon Ra Reptiles

    Amon Ra Reptiles Little Dog

    As I treat all my animals feeders or not very well. For the moment some are in a little smaller hutch then needed but I'm going I fix it. Got all the wood and wire just gotta get the hubby to build it.
    As for the live feeding. No harm done lol. I get this discussion all the time. When you have as many animals as I have you just can't feed live. The rabbits I like to be pre-killed because of the size. They can do some damage with their back feet.
    Rats I feed live. Except for big adults. Those I will prekill. Small rats i feed live. I've never had a problem. I watch everyone constrict and make sure the head is secure and the rats can't bite. Injuries happen with irresponsible owners who toss in a rat and leave it.
    I can't prekill 80 rats and hope they all eat. Ball pythons are picky eaters. So I can't afford to prekill or thaw out FT rats for 80 snakes. What if 20 don't eat. Well that's 20 rays wasted. No big breeder feeds prekilled or frozen. I've never had a problem and will continue what I do. If I had a handful of snakes then yes I would feed frozen. But I have 80+.
  8. K9 Love

    K9 Love Good Dog

    I think the BIL has a jungle carpet python maybe? And I'm pretty sure he just tossed the rat in, he was watching I imagine but I wasn't there so don't know how it all went down.

    That's interesting though that big breeders don't feed pre killed, I get what you're saying though, it would be a huge waste.

    I can see those bunnies doing some damage though! I know my bunny accidentally ravaged my arm a few days ago jumping off of me. I look like I've been swiped by a wolverine!
  9. Elliehanna

    Elliehanna GRCH Dog

    this is my fav. breed of rabbit. I have always thought if I had meat rabbits they would be these (yes kinda morbid but I would keep some as pets too) don't know how well that would work but yea, and I don't know if I am allergic to them (since I am to rodents)
  10. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    I love Flemish Giants!!!

    You've got me beat all to hell in the reptile count hahaha.

    I've got about 15 snakes. All colubrids thanks to our stupid provincial law. "Snakes except those of the family Boidae". Even though a number of us have taught to have pythons, we get the answer of "well we meant to include pythons when we wrote that so they're still illegal" or "when we wrote that pythons were Boidae, not Pythonidae, and we haven't gotten around to changing it, so they're still illegal, because we say so". Want an uber stupid law? There's one. Especially since we LEGALLY own a Spectacled Caiman and a Wedgehead Caiman.

    Ive also got monitors, tegus, an Australian Water Dragon, beardies, etc. Plus we have rodents. Roborovski hamsters, Egyptian Spiny Mice, Gerbils, a ton of rats. We used to have ASFs but cleaning those nasty mean little assholes drove me nuts lol. I had a dislike for them, as they did me lol.
  11. KateNLeo

    KateNLeo Big Dog

    What's an "ASF"?
  12. JJeanae

    JJeanae Good Dog

    An ASF is short for African Soft Fur rat. Lots of people breed them for food (mainly), for snakes and large lizards. They don't make great pets from my experiences. Size wise, they're right in the middle between mice and normal rats.

  13. KateNLeo

    KateNLeo Big Dog

    Ok. Never heard of them before! Thanks, JJ!
  14. Amon Ra Reptiles

    Amon Ra Reptiles Little Dog

    They work great for ball pythons that are picky eaters. They are a ball pythons natural diet (being from Africa and all). So when you have one that won't eat rats or mice well or at all, usually ASFs will work.
    I had a female who went off feed for a previous owner because she was a wild caught snake. So after being off feed for a year I got her bad offered ASFs and just like that she was eating.

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