My dogs got in a bad fight help !!!!!!!!!

[_providencepits_]

the big open gash is just frightening deep tissue punctures bleeding is minimal i have wraps on all the big wounds and anti-bacterial ointment on the smaller ones



the vet told me care credit is a scam because they charge way to much for nothing more than a few hundred bucks of credit with loads of interest and over charges so that's why i say its a scam if u can get it fine thats cool but i cant


it kinda is her fault but really its a natural condition in canines when they are not bred or spayed they can get an infection so they had to spay her not even 2 months ago

i owe the vet money because it was her that got sick and they saved her life so i will contact them and ask what they can do for her all the other vets are just too much

the dogs get along fine get along fine but i just dont know this is crazy none of my other dogs ever fought or even snapped at each other and its been a while so i leave them out and they never got into this kind of a brawl but any help is appreciated i dressed her wounds changed them and she will get antibiotics

its just scary she is my first dog my baby girl i can afford her vet bill we just got over her surgery it was 5 weeks ago so i need time to recover and money is stupid anyway its just paper i cared for her for 8 years not one issue

i take great care of her and im always there i never left her behind or any of her relatives i try hard and this mistake happened what can i do even if we go the vet if they say just leave the wound open they will just over charge me for bandages and wraps i got lots of those what else can i do she just needs time to heal i got a wag out of her tail today she is a real fighter i hope she makes it

thanks for responding and understanding shit happens sometimes

 

[NobodyHere]

the vet told me care credit is a scam because they charge way to much for nothing more than a few hundred bucks of credit with loads of interest and over charges so that's why i say its a scam if u can get it fine thats cool but i cant

Scams involve dishonesty. Are you getting what you sign up for when you choose to accept the terms that Care Credit offers? If so, then it's not a scam, no matter how little you may LIKE it. I didn't pay any interest at all when I used it.

it kinda is her fault

What is whose fault? None of this is the DOG'S fault.

all the other vets are just too much

So are the other vets a "scam," too? Basically, you CAN take your dog to another vet, you just won't, because it "costs too much?"

the dogs get along finee

Obviously not.

but i just dont know this is crazy none of my other dogs ever fought or even snapped at each other

What part of "fighting breed" don't you understand so that we can break it down for you into more simple terms?

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

while i was away my two girls got in a real bad fight moma is chewed up real bad not sure how to heal her vet is not an option at this point ANY tip or techniques you can lend me please comment asap

First of all, there is no logical excuse to leave two (or more) dogs out together when you're not supervising your dogs, especially bull breeds. I would like to believe you learned your lesson, but I'm not so confident. Bull breeds are genetically predisposed to being dog aggressive and if you're not supervising their interactions then you will never be able to pick up on the subtle hints they are about to fight. Not only that, but you also weren't home at all, which means you have no idea they are fighting and in no way, shape or form can separate the two dogs. You're lucky the dogs aren't both dead.....seriously. I hope you're aware of that. Separation is a necessity with all dogs, but especially the category of bull breeds. If you cannot supervise the dogs 100% (even if you leave the room for only a moment) the dogs should be separated, whether in crates or different rooms it doesn't matter, but it has to be done. This goes for inside and outside. They should NEVER be together unless you're supervising them.

Secondly, when you own a living being of any type you're making a commitment for the duration of their lifetime. That commitment entails many facets of the dogs life, including food, a safe place to live, sleep and play, clean water, outlets for their energy and most of all proper & timely medical care (including vaccinations, medications, checkups, emergencies etc.) There's many more facets of being a responsible owner and in reality you're failing in this category at the current moment.

Third of all, you NEED to get this dog to a veterinarians office NOW. Sure the injuries at the moment don't appear to be life threatening (I'm not a vet and it's impossible to evaluate from photos), but infections are no joke, especially when dealing with large open wounds. Treat this as the injuries are life threatening and get in your car and go to the vet right now. You're attempting to justify the lack of action on your part in getting these dogs to the doctor, but there's no justification and each time you attempt to justify it you're only inching yourself deeper into the pits of irresponsible owners. Take the dog to the doctor and worry about the bills later. If that is a problem, whether monetary restrictions or otherwise you shouldn't have gotten two dogs, let alone one dog (or any living being other than maybe a fish). You made a commitment to this dog(s), now be responsible and do what is right. Take the dog to a new veterinarian so you don't have resentment from your normal vet in which you owe money too already. A new vet won't know you or your situation and will be willing to help, as it's their job. When you arrive to a new vet you can bring the dog inside and explain your situation. Most vet's will make financial accommodations for people in your shoes, but you wouldn't know that unless you actually get off your ass, turn off your computer, get in your car and get your dog to the vet office. Don't make excuses because there are solutions to every problem. Do you have a credit card? Apply to care again and just because YOU aren't accepted doesn't make a company a scam. Many members here have used care credit with fantastic results/experiences. I haven't used any similar type of service, but I have heard great things about them. Call dog insurance companies and get your dogs enrolled ASAP. Yes, now that you waited until your dogs are injured it will cost you more, but it will still aid you a little (it seems you didn't get the hint the last time you couldn't afford your dogs vet bill). There are other options too, but that is dependent on each veterinarian and their office. You simply cannot know unless you go in person and ask the vet. Worst comes to worst the vet will offer their services and if you don't pay they will send it to a collections company. You have nothing to loose, once again, get your damn dogs to the veterinarians office and THIS TIME sign up for a solid insurance plan as soon as you're done. I really am wondering why you didn't do this after the last injury you couldn't pay for, is there a reason other than you're just lazy?
Please don't get butthurt and offended from my post and others. You need to hear the truth and you're not being a responsible owner. The dog needs vet care, you need to brush up on how to be a responsible owner and you will move on from there. Please do what's right and educate yourself by sticking around here and get the dog to the vet. Other sites will tell you the same thing. Don't waste any more time, stop making excuses, simply get off your ass and go if you havent already/

 

[_providencepits_]

thanks for the list the bill really isnt the issue its just what can a vet do for her if anything i need a wheel chair and more bandages what else will a vet do they said leave the wounds open and keep them clean

 

[DancesWithCurs]

thanks for the list the bill really isnt the issue its just what can a vet do for her ifanythingi need a wheel chair and more bandages what else will a vet do they said leave the wounds open and keep them clean

Provide accurate medical care? I'm just... baffled by this entire thread. Why did you get dogs if you can't even properly care for them and want to make every excuse to not get them to someone who can?

 

[Jamielvsaustin]

Wow, what a shame. They let just anyone own animals. Sad.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

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the vet told me care credit is a scam because they charge way to much for nothing more than a few hundred bucks of credit with loads of interest and over charges so that's why i say its a scam if u can get it fine thats cool but i cant

It's not a scam and apparently you need to find a new vet. Interest is going to be something you will experience a lot of when you cannot afford to pay your bills. Why would someone help you with money (when you don't have any/enough), which is an extremely high risk for the lender and not charge high rates of interest. There would be no motivation for a lender to lend money to a high risk client without making money off interest. It's a part of being lent money by financial institutions.

it kinda is her fault but really its a natural condition in canines when they are not bred or spayed they can get an infection so they had to spay her not even 2 months ago

Whos fault? and what are you talking about.

i owe the vet money because it was her that got sick and they saved her life so i will contact them and ask what they can do for her all the other vets are just too much

What do you mean the other vets are too much? As in money? They can all make accommodations for people in your situation, especially in short notice emergencies. Just call around and bring the dog by one by one in order to find a vet that can be of service. Do you want to risk infection and other side effects of open wounds? Sure your dog may be fine if you don't get it care, but you never know and we can't evaluate the dog over the internet.

the dogs get along fine get along fine but i just dont know this is crazy none of my other dogs ever fought or even snapped at each other and its been a while so i leave them out and they never got into this kind of a brawl but any help is appreciated i dressed her wounds changed them and she will get antibiotics

Well guess what, it happened and it's not crazy. What is crazy is your lack of education on the breed of dog you own. BUll breed dogs were selectively bred to fight other dogs, therefore they are genetically predisposed towards dog aggression. Not every bull dog displays dog aggression in their lifetime, but many do. It can happen at any age and at any time, for seemingly little or no reason. Once it happens once, it will most likely happen again if you don't manage it properly. That may include total separation for the remainder of their lifetimes. You need to understand genetic traits cannot be trained away, they are engrained in the genetic structure of your dog (all bull breeds). What that means is you have to manage the behaviors responsibly, which includes separation, supervision among many other forms. Just because your dogs havent displayed DA before or got into fights, doesn't mean it cant happen. Believing it can't happen is ignorance at it's finest. It's part of the breed you own so you need to accept it. I suggest ordering a break stick asap from the product section of this site. You need one to separate the dogs if/when they fight again. You will not be able to do so in a timely manner without this tool (breakstick). Don't wait until it happens again and instead be proactive by being responsible.

its just scary she is my first dog my baby girl i can afford her vet bill we just got over her surgery it was 5 weeks ago so i need time to recover and money is stupid anyway its just paper i cared for her for 8 years not one issue

You may call it "just paper" and "Stupid", but the reality still remains, you NEED it for all facets of life these days. You need it for survival. Your dog needs it for medical care. Does that seem so stupid? Get your dog to the vet, stop making excuses. Each time makes you appear more and more irresponsible. The worst part is you don't seem to realize or believe your irresponsible. Do you know what you did wrong as an owner?

i take great care of her and im always there i never left her behind or any of her relatives i try hard and this mistake happened what can i do even if we go the vet if they say just leave the wound open they will just over charge me for bandages and wraps i got lots of those what else can i do she just needs time to heal i got a wag out of her tail today she is a real fighter i hope she makes it

You may think you take good care of the dogs, but in reality you aren't doing a good job. Shit happens, but you did some very irresponsible actions and the worst part is you just sit here attempting to justify it and make excuses, rather than admit you're wrong and fucked up. These dogs must be supervised from now on any moment they are together and when you can't the should be separated by crates, different rooms, inside/outside with proper containment etc. I understand that you have some monetary issues, but you own dogs and they demand health care in a timely fashion. The dog needs medication, maybe stitches, proper wraps, ointments (medicated) and most of all a real professional opinion/evaluation. You may claim it's a waste of money, but is your money worth more than your dogs life? If you care for your dogs bring them to the vet and worry about the money later. If you can't you should find new homes in which the owners can care for them and be responsible.

thanks for responding and understanding shit happens sometimes

Shit does happen sometimes, but it's up to you as the owner to be responsible and ensure you change your irresponsible ways right now. It's also up to you to get the dog the care it demands.

 

[NobodyHere]

thanks for the list the bill really isnt the issue its just what can a vet do for her if anything i need a wheel chair and more bandages what else will a vet do they said leave the wounds open and keep them clean

Then why are you asking random strangers on an internet forum if you already spoke to a vet and got an answer? I'm half surprised a vet would give medical advice like this without actually evaluating the dog and the extent of the injuries, assuming you were being honest about the circumstances. Certainly no ethical vet would.

 

[Team Peanut]

thanks for the list the bill really isnt the issue its just what can a vet do for her if anything i need a wheel chair and more bandages what else will a vet do they said leave the wounds open and keep them clean

The vet will need to properly clean the wounds irrigate them, make sure there is no damage to the muscle tissue, nerves, tendons etc. beyond that it's possible they would need drains if there is more damage then just surface some of those wounds look like they need sutures they are too wide open to just heal. Also she will most likely need antibiotics and pain meds. This much damage it is not going to be just charged for a few bandages. The best thing you could do for her is take her in for evaluation. The worst thing is to do nothing. Home care is good for scrapes not wounds.

 

[Jamielvsaustin]

OP, just so you know-if you continue to leave these dogs alone unsupervised-this will happen again.

 

[NobodyHere]

Home care is good for scrapes not wounds.

Unless you are experienced in evaluating and treating bite/gore wounds (many working/hunting dog people are well schooled on that subject), but I agree that the average pet owner, and surely someone who needs to ask random people on the internet, has no damn business messing with "home care" for fight injuries.

Also keeping in mind that there were TWO dogs involved in this fight. What does the OTHER dog look like?

 

[adk26rn]

:no2:

 

[Michele]

thanks for the list the bill really isnt the issue its just what can a vet do for her if anything i need a wheel chair and more bandages what else will a vet do they said leave the wounds open and keep them clean

What is wrong with you!! Get your dog to a vet! The bites can become, if not already, infected.

 

[Michele]

What does the other dog look like?

 

[TannerG]

Look another idiot that has the answers but still asks for advice.:nono:

 

[Vicki]

dogs got in a real bad fight help!!!!!!

 

[NobodyHere]

dogs got in a real bad fight help!!!!!!

Wow. I don't even...

So this guy is a fucking breeder who is homeless, and had his other dogs taken from him because they were living in crates in a filthy garage, and apparently doesn't know fuck-all about the breed he makes more of, so his two remaining dogs are torn to shit now and he can't go to a vet. Yep, guess "money means nothing" when you're broke and living off other people...

 

[Vicki]

I got faked out; if you saw my original post, he signed in with another user name, which got banned, and I thought this was the one that got banned....lol...

 

[Michele]

wow....just wow....

 

[BCdogs]

Beyond fucked up...