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Moms boxer got human aggressive

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by K_Hodges, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. monkeys23

    monkeys23 GRCH Dog

    Oh yeah, I agree too. A good trainer helped me understand what Scout was screaming out in her subdued body language. Thank goodness I had the brains to do that when I first took her in.

    I wouldn't even necesarily call it a guardy dog. Sounds like a very logical action for a young adult dog of a high energy working breed that has zero guidance from its owner and has not had proper socialization and training, especially the fact that the dog has obviously had zero socialization/acclimitazation to children. Dogs aren't born perfect...
     
  2. VaBeachTennis

    VaBeachTennis Little Dog

    Excellent points!!!

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    excellent points!!!
     
  3. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    I just have to ask, what exactly were Boxers bred for anyway? I grew up with them but really don't know much about them

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    I ask that because I found this
    on wikipedia, so I'm wondering what is true?
     
  4. JakesMom5332

    JakesMom5332 Little Dog

    They are a working breed. They were bred to be multi purpose dogs for work around the home as well as guarding the property. They are wonderful with their families and this is why they need to be trained and socialized a lot. They are intelligent dogs and have no problem stepping up to run the show if allowed.
     
  5. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    Oh. So I mean...an untrained Boxer...COULD be likely to bite a stranger at the door. Okay, makes sense lol
     
  6. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I learnt something new about Boxers. I'd never seen them as a territorial guard type dog. They look so joyful.
     
  7. VonKromeHaus

    VonKromeHaus Good Dog

    My parents have 3 Boxers and they would give their lives for my parents and sister. They let you know someone is there!

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  8. destinoscelgo

    destinoscelgo Good Dog

    I think dopey is the word you're looking for lol
     
  9. McRose

    McRose Big Dog

    God yes. I posted a picture of the couch Amy destroyed on my facebook and people kept telling me "she did it to punish you for leaving her - you need to show her who's in charge." Erm, she doesn't have the complex thought process to punish me for anything. Most likely she just discovered that the couch was full of delightful stuffing that was a lot of fun to remove.
     
  10. K_Hodges

    K_Hodges Little Dog

    The dog actually has a lot of acclimation to children. We are at my mothers a lot and cricket and my daughter are best friends. And she plays with the neighbor kids (the one she tried to bite, and his siblings) She has always has bad manners when it comes to greeting people though. But never has she growled and then tried to bite someone's face. I've sent my mother a link to someone that I think she should contact. Until then, my daughter wont be going over there. I really don't think there's much else that needs to be said. Thanks everyone for the input and suggestions.
     
  11. VaBeachTennis

    VaBeachTennis Little Dog

    I agree, I don't think it's the "end of the world" or that the dog should be put down. I think that the dog was faced with an unfamiliar situation (the hoodie) and reacted in an aggressive manner to protect itself, it's owner, and it's territory. In my opinion the owners and whoever is going to handle the dog should keep this in mind and take the proper steps to control the dog (leash, obedience, crate, etc.) and set the dog up in controlled situations so it can be taught the proper manner of when to be aggressive and when NOT to be aggressive. When I am meeting new people in new situations with my dogs, I keep an eye on my dog's body language and have a plan in place to control the dog if he shows signs of avoidance or aggression.

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    So you are planning on putting a dog down because he looks at kids funny? What does he do when or if you try to redirect him? What breed is he? Have you tried introducing him to kids through a barrier (chain link fence) and let him smell them with a flat hand? What about trying to get him adopted and issue that caveat and screen the potential owners?

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    LOL that is funny and true for the most part.
     
  12. Jazzy

    Jazzy GRCH Dog


    I do agree with you to a point.

    But I think behaviorists get thrown around allot because often times people want to kill dogs...pretty much just for being dogs...and because in many instances it clearly is too difficult for them to understand that the dog is just being...an animal...and that if they adjust the way they interact with the animal...the behavior will resolve.

    So either we say "kill every dog that doesn't act like a stuffed animal" or..."see a trained qualified professional who can help you understand canine behavior and act accordingly".

    As K9 said; some people have amazing, spot on instincts...and for them it really isn't that difficult. They probably couldn't title a dog without some formal training...but they know enough to get by and train the basics without any issues. For other people...they will have better success if you suggest they take out their own gallbladder.

    And some dogs are just complicated. Some have temperments and issues and quirks that people want to understand because they want to work with the dog and they want to know they are going about it the right way. Sort of the difference between knowing when you can use a home remedy and when it's time to see the doctor.

    At least that's how I see it.
     
  13. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    My instinct, my gut and my own personal experience with a GSD when I was still in high school tells me that in the hands of an amateur (this mom?) or someone poorly equipped/trained to deal with an increasingly aggressive dog (what ever kind of aggression) as is described in the OP ... the only thing "you" will accomplish trying to get the aggression out (as some "professionals" would have you believe is possible) or even managing aggression at an amateur level ... is perhaps an insecure/unpredictable dog, which this dog may already be LOL.

    It will take dedication, persistence, caution and awareness and lots of time to change where this Boxer is clearly headed. Starting from this point forward I would not trust this dog around people under any circumstance until such time as a distinct change in the behavior has been noted ... and would likely still consider this dog "unpredictable". I tend to err on the side of caution ... especially where children are concerned.
     
  14. kissapittie

    kissapittie Puppy

    From someone who has a dog that has this same behavior of the door: The first thing is to NEVER let the dog run to the door when you are opening it. If your mom is going to go to a behaviorist, they are probably going to give you a packet with information about the "30 day relaxation protocol". If the dog has a ton of nervous energy, and gets worked up when someone comes to the door, this is awesome. My dog's anxiety hits the roof when someone comes to the door. It's a constant issue that we work on, and that protocol has helped SO MUCH with his anxiety. It's more than training the dog to down-stay in a specific spot, it's teaching them how to relax under certain stimuli in the environment, working up to people coming to the door and other exciting things.

    The other thing is going to be life long management. You will never be able to fully trust the dog in scenarios like that. You can make it less likely to happen by working with it, but it's going to be a management issue for the rest of the dogs' life. When someone who doesn't want to help me worth with my dog comes over, my dog goes into the bedroom and gets the best treat ever - a bone I only give him when he has to be put away. So, instead of getting worked up because people are at the door, he is now learning that new people = yum treats, a safe place away from the chaos, etc.
     
  15. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    This. People overcomplicate things and create more "problem for themselves.IT'S.A.FUCKING.DOG.Dog pisses in the house,correct it and show it where to piss,dog chews up your shoes,take them away and show it what it can chew on,dog tries to bite child in the face,plant the fucker. See how easy that is? Now where's my $500 consultation fee?
     
  16. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    Some people won't kill a dog after it bites, some people will want to keep the dog and work with it but they may not understand the right steps with dealing with training to help the dog, so, you wouldn't be much help there.

    Serenity for example, she's bitten, she would again and I want to help her but by myself, I have no idea how to properly help her. A behaviorist came along and helped me and now that I have seen what to do, things are working out and I understand more then I did before. Behaviorist can be helpful for people who really need the help, in person.
     
  17. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    Ladies and Gentlemen,I rest my case.
     
  18. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    It's good to know some people care enough about their dogs to help them with outside help because they know they need it.
     
  19. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    I do care enough about my dog. I just care more about innocent children not getting mauled and possibly killed or disfigured for life. I know, Im sick. When will I get my priorities in order?
     
  20. Tahlz

    Tahlz Good Dog

    I know you care about your dog.

    This is the first time the dogs done this, I don't see a dog that should be put down first time. A dog that could have gotten freaked out by seeing the kid in the hoodie, while some dogs will do fine around that situation, some won't, the dog shouldn't die for doing it the first time. If the dog was protecting the house because the dog thought the kid in a hoodie was a danger. No, I don't think that's a first shot death sentence.

    While it isn't acceptable, I can't blame the dog if it was protecting.

    If they are willing to keep the dog and the incident may only happen at the door, it's not that hard to lock the dog away when people come over. Problem solved. The owners live alone and don't really have kids over much so why kill the dog if they can just lock the dog away if a kid comes over.

    I am not against putting a dog down that bites, I have no problem with that but if some one can keep the dog from biting and provide the dog with a good life still, let them.
     

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