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Mighty Matteo...A Must See for APBT Lovers

Discussion in 'American Bully' started by CornerStone Kennels, Apr 13, 2009.

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  1. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I am curious. You say he has champions in his ped, but is he a champion? Do you show him or anything?

    And while I understand you might feel angry that some people aren't acknowledging your dog as an APBT. I feel your "run of the mill greyhound APBT" comment was unnecessary and rude. I guess Chinaman was a "run of the mill greyhound APBT" as well. Your dog is definitely a "pit bull". Most likely not an APBT. Possibly an Amstaff, going by the blood you have meantioned is in him, but looks like a well put together American Bully. I don't see why you'd be offended by that.
     
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  2. Mollie's Nana

    Mollie's Nana Krypto Super Dog Staff Member


    Marty loves his grand-doggy!! :D
     

  3. LOL, thanks for the compliement, Matteo isnt stacked here. Thats on my life he isnt. Thank again.

    Like I said, thanks for all the comments guys good and bad, some people love what Im doing with my program and I'll find 1 or 2 that dont agree, like the couple on this board. If you like it, you can contact me and if you dont your more than welcome to state your opinions and move on. I love dogs and enjoy them as a part of my family. Its hard to make everyone happy and Im not here to try to do that. All my dogs are very healthy, live amazing lives, get threated better than most house pets, and bring joy into my family. Hate it or love it, Matteo is a national name for many reasons and I just wanted to share him with dog lovers bc I am one myself.
     
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  4. Alma

    Alma GRCH Dog

    Handsome AmBullies you have there. I prefer the smaller APBT's like Marty's but a nice well proportionate AmBully is a beautiful animal as well. :) I agree with Xavier, he should be the AmBully Breed Standard!!
     
  5. Mollie's Nana

    Mollie's Nana Krypto Super Dog Staff Member

    awwww.... I love this picture!! :hearts:

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  6. showdawgs

    showdawgs Little Dog

    Okay my last post, point proven no health testing completed on him, correct.

    And trust me he is not NATIONALLY known, get over the big head and just love your dog!! I hope he lives to a rip roaring age with no health problems!!
     
  7. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    Sure thing. Give it 1 week- 3 weeks. I mailed in a payment for me to get my dog's pedigree from the ADBA last week.


    If you knew anything about dogs, you would see his pedigree and know it doesnt get much better.

    :confused: You just said he is an APBT yet "he has mostly amstaff blood"

    If a human is 10% African, and 90% white. And then someone ask the human, what nationality he is, and he says he is african and nothing else.

    Your good looking dog should be labeled Pit Bull Mix
    Your telling me, your pit bull mix is game? I just find that hard to believe. Do you even know what game/gameness is? I never met your dog before but i am just saying I highly doubt an American Bully is "very game". And thats nice. My dog can jump 7 feet. I am 6 foot 1. And with my arm extended in the air my dog jumped and got the toy. And im pretty sure he can jump higher then that but i never actually tried to make him jump that high. I wouldnt say 4 ft is impressive. My dog at like 5 months was jumping 4 feet.


    I lafffed hard. Proud of selling 3,000 $ pups, thinking it means something. Guess what? My neighbor has one of those tan/black colored Chiwawa's. (the color of the rot whieilers.. forgot the exact color name but you get the idea) And guess how much she paid for them? $6,000. Little does she know, that the color is not "rare" [/quote]


    As I said, my pedigree is still waiting to be mailed to me. And here are some pictures of my dog. I did'nt brag about my dog, but in a way I guess I can. I am willing to bet my 41 lb apbt, will out perform your 100 lb + american bully.

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    P.S. I'm not disrespecting your dog. I said your dog LOOKS GOOD. But I just wanted to say it wasnt a pure or a must see IMO. :) I do not consider my dog . rex a "must see" ...... either.. Im not hating on your dog........ I said it looks good for an ambully but not "a must see apbt"
     
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  8. I do not show Matteo, that was never my thing, but after attending a couple in the last few months, I will start showing his offspring. And to clear things up I wasnt offended that a few didnt label him an APBT, when people ask about him I more often than not say hes an Amstaff, but mutt like one said, he is not. How can you call someone a mutt with a top-notch pedigree like that. 90% AKC/UKC Champs. Thats almost funny
     
  9. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    I'm sorry, but unless you have taken place in Illegal Activities, you can not claim that your dog is game. He may be very athlete, have a high prey drive, and have amazing determination and tenacity, but he can't be called Game unless like I said above you take place in Illegal activities, which I am sure you don't.

    Many of us agree that calling your dog a mutt was also rude and uncalled for.

    As for "how can you call one a mutt with a top-notch pedigree" not saying this is your case, but in many case, people do want is called Paper Hanging. They claim this one dog is te Sire when it is in fact many times a completely different breed that sired the litter.
     
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  10. Your dog out perform mine, as far as my females go..stop.


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    ..as far as my males go..your dog might be able to out run Matteo if that, this boy is stupid fast... but pulling NO, Bitework NO, protecting NO, flirt pole NO. Im putting a video together thats going on a National DVD for AB and Matteo will be on it, when its dont Ill post it, then you can tell me what Matteo can and cannot do. AND I hope your 41 lbs dog can maybe jump higher than Matteo- 98lbs. whos faster in a race, a sprinter or body builder?

    Thats like saying I bet Matteo can knock down and out play fight your dog.... This isnt a pissing contest.

    And as far as the jumping thing goes, this just shows me your train of thought. I said Matteo can jump from a stand still into my truck which is atlest 4' off the ground, that means his feet (the closest thing to the ground) are getting 4' off the ground, making his head around 6' off the ground, show me 100lb dog do that and I will congrat you on your 40 lbs dog doing the same.

    never intented this tread to turn into this, sorry guys but you are always going to have some people try and put a twist on words and thoughts, thats just their way of donig things
     
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  11. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    im laughing hard... Can you honestly say that your american bully or any american bully for this matter can do what a REAL APBT can do?

    Show me a picture of some american bullies doing this plz.

    p.s. i own none of these dogs below. Pictures found from Google.com/images but i just thought i would share these pics, that real apbt's could do. And not an american bully or "100 + lb xl pit bull"

    Pulled 10,000 lb's i believe.

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    ^ im pretty sure an american bully will just all around shatter in peices when attempting this


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    Why arent american bullies used for hog hunting ?

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    Anywho, you never seen my dog perform, you just saw pics of him. Dont judge a book by its cover, the only thing you dog may be better doing is "trained bite work
     
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  12. Game DOESNT only mean the dog is a fighter, wow!!!! A dog is game if it is GAME if he or she has that drive/determination in them. When Matteo sees a wild animal he pauses and will not have it leave his eyes, if I allow him he will chase any animal he will. And if you want to go that route, we were at a park once, and an unleashed boxer came over and put his paw on top of Matteo to show dominance and Matteo was about 14 months old and and boxer then went after Matteo and to make a long story short the boxer, almost died, thank god there were witnesses to what happenedSo yes Matteo is game.

    I know about hung papers. here is Matteos Sire to throw that out since you mentioned it.

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  13. LOL, this to too funny:lol::lol:

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    Anywho, you never seen my dog perform, you just saw pics of him. Dont judge a book by its cover.

    excuse me while I go look up hypocritical.

     
  14. I guess you dont see my 75lb female jumping about 7-8' in mid-air....

    How bout I change this mood of this tread. Wasnt the weather great this weekend. How close am I to 100:D
     
  15. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    That's called 'prey' drive.

    As far as your 'park' incident, I'm going to call BS. You are saying the boxer was unleashed. Was your dog leashed or unleashed? Either way, it was your responsibility to control your dog, and you didn't. Great way to feed BSL. You can now be added onto the irresponsible dog owner list. :no2:

    There is only ONE way to call your dog 'game' and that is illegal. Just because your dog has drive/determination, does not make that dog game. :no2:
     
  16. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    :confused: You do not understand gameness. Gameness does not equal dog or animal aggression. Just because your dog is "dog aggressive" and is determined to get the "prey?", it does not make a dog game. If it did equal this, then why did Homer live with a cat and not attack it? When Homer was game? Why is it that not all gamedogs go crazy when their is an animal in site.. Simple.. Dog agression or determination or prey drive does not equal gameness. A gamedog will never give up NO matter how hard the challenge and how tired he or in physical pain. The dog will have a "heart" and not give up

    The only way to PROVE if a dog is game or not is in the ring.

    I HIGHLY recommend you read this

    http://www.nyx.net/~mbur/apbtfaqfaq.html#q7
     
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  17. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    The only way to determine gameness is within the pit. That is how it is. Otherwise, your dog just has determination and drive, not game. I am wary of people to want to say that their dog is "game". I feel they are trying to ride on the coat tails of the term, because they think it makes their dog seem "big and bad". Game is a title that is earned and shouldn't be tossed around and given to just any dog. It's an insult to the dogs that had to go throw the sh*t to earn it.


    That is high prey drive, not gameness.

    A short scuffle with another dog even if the other dog almost died isn't gameness. If Mateo was close to death and kept fighting, then yes he would be game. However, just because he could hurt a dog that was most likely smaller than him doesn't make him game either.

    If it was just another dog being able to kill another dog, then many breeds could claim the term game.

    He looks a bit Ambully-ish as well, though I can see where the Amstaff might be in there.
     
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  18. ultimatek9

    ultimatek9 Big Dog

    What is he becoming "nationally known" for?
    You don't show him, you don't compete him in anything, he has no titles/championships/awards/etc., yet you breed him. So basically, you are a BYB? Correct me if I am wrong...



    As far as performance goes, my boys titles/records speak for themselves.

    Sprinter or body builder? A properly breed APBT is both. They are athletic, agile, powerful, fast, and should excel in almost every form of physical activity.


    Matteo is a nice looking dog, for what he is. He is not an APBT. He is an Am Staff or Am Bully, which ever you want to call him. BUT a 98lb dog is not an American Pit Bull Terrier. Actually, he doesn't even fall into breed standard for an AST.
     
  19. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    Excellent post UltimateK9:)
     


  20. you can put me on this list: If you dog comes over to my dog that is on a steak in the ground with a 6' chain and your UNLEASHED agressive dog comes over and is alpha male by putting a paw on my dogs back then my dog pauses and the boxer then attempts to bit my dog and my dogs defends himself by biting the boxer and almost killing it THEN YES i am DEF on that list, ALL DAY. I guess if Matteo wasnt able to DEFEND himself and gotten hurt or killed by the unleashed agressive dog it would be dif. Mess with fire you get burned. The funny thing is, the boxer owner took me to court in Savannah GA and due to all the witnesses, didnt win. I took Matteo to the last 3 dog major dog shows and hes great with other dogs, you attack him and theres gonna be a fight, THESE ARE PITS PEOPLE. I surely dont want a dog that wont defend himself or family.
     
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