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Mandatory Neuter?

Discussion in 'American Staffordshire Terrier' started by Disneyversal, Jan 15, 2016.

  1. Disneyversal

    Disneyversal Puppy

    I'm adopting an Amstaff today and I'm going to get him microchipped, registered, and get a dog license. I'm going to get him registered with the AKC. If anybody knows where else obscene to do, that would be appreciated. But I hear I have to get him sterilized in 4 months. Can I just get him chemically neutered? I would rather not sterilize him, but I don't know the legality of it. Oh, I live in California btw. I alternate between my apartment un Santa Clara county and my parent's house in LA County


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  2. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    Wouldn't you need to be asking the shelter you adopted your pup from?
     
  3. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    It's going to depend on the facility you adopt him from. Your contract will have the rules that you need to adhere to. Oftentimes, the dog is neutered prior to you taking him home.
     
  4. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    I would not adopt a dog that is "required" to be neutered -- chemically or otherwise -- at that age.

    First of all, it's not good for the dog; and secondly, I don't like someone TELLING me I have to do that.
     
  5. ETRaven

    ETRaven Little Dog

    My last few dogs.have been shelter mutts. all were spayed at 8 weeks. Honestly, I would not trust a shelter that doesn't alter every animal that leaves their facility.
     
  6. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    That's sort of what I'm saying...sure the shelter can do that; therefore I don't recommend GETTING a dog from a shelter that, ESPECIALLY, requires neuter at 8 weeks.
     
  7. ETRaven

    ETRaven Little Dog

    To me, the rescue is not a reputable one, and not worth supporting unless every animal that leaves it's doors is altered. I know it isn't the ideal choice, however I do feel that it is the lesser of two evils.

    OP - as a alternative you could always look into a K9 vasectomy.
     
  8. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I agree. Once the pup physically leaves the shelter, it's difficult (time consuming and expensive) to get the dog back or enforce the contract. It's best to have it done before the ownership changes hands.

    If people were more trustworthy about not breeding and responsibly keeping intact dogs, it wouldn't be an issue. But we all know that's not what happens. So surgery before new owner takes the dog is next best option.
     
  9. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog


    I DO get it and understand why shelters do it.

    For me personally, I will still recommend to people they not get a dog from a place that does the pediatric spay neuters and then I will tell them why. Then it's up to them.

    My feeling is that if people aren't tuned enough into dogs and THEIR needs and lives, and don't have the ability to handle an intact dog in a responsible way to about one year of age; to understand why pediatric spay-neuter is just wrong, then maybe a DOG is not what they really want. Just the way I feel about it.
     
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  10. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    That's why I'll never adopt a puppy. I need to know that dog was intact up to 2 years old. So I'd adopt an adult dog that was recently neutered. But not a puppy. Can't do it. I'm with you on that.
     
  11. ETRaven

    ETRaven Little Dog

    Exactly. We can screen ppl and home check til we're blue in the face, but i would rather have no unplanned litters than even one, bc typically those pups end up back in the system. shit, Raven's litter mate was homed 3 times before she found a permanent one.

    I asked if I could leave Raven intact bc I too agree with waiting until a dog or bitch is older, however, my request was denied and I respect and understand that.
     
  12. ETRaven

    ETRaven Little Dog

    I understand your point but where else is there to get a puppy besides an ethical breeder? byb? puppy mill? i rather have folks supporting ethical rescues than getting a byb pup bc they can wait to alter, or choose not to at all.

    And I chose to adopt a dog that was a pediatric spay, so does that say Im lazy and dont want to tune in, as you imply....it does not.
     
  13. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I don't think it necessarily makes you lazy or even uninformed. It just means different things are important to you than are important to me. I don't think it makes you a bad owner either. You're not making the choice to neuter early.

    Just like I don't fault the rescue or shelter for pediatric neuters. They have to do what needs to be done to protect themselves and the dogs.
     
  14. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I also would never adopt a dog altered that young. That's just personal preference. I wouldn't risk it now that the health issues associated with juvenile spay/neuter are becoming common knowledge.

    I also totally understand why rescues do it, but I still wish they wouldn't. If they can't trust someone to actually follow through on a contract detailing age to spay/neuter, maybe they shouldn't be adopting to people they don't trust.
     
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  15. ruffiangirl

    ruffiangirl Little Dog

    I fully agree with shelters and rescues altering the dogs before they leave, 100% I also wouldn't support one that didn't. If someone doesn't want to then talk to the rescue about OSS or a vasectomy, or get a dog from an ethical breeder who agrees with your choice to wait or wanting OSS or a vasectomy.


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  16. Disneyversal

    Disneyversal Puppy

    was looking into vasectomy. I just heard it was hard to find a vet who did that
     
  17. ruffiangirl

    ruffiangirl Little Dog

    It can be, but they are out there.


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  18. ShanaRowan

    ShanaRowan FlirtPolin' Premium Member

    OP, are you adopting this dog from a shelter, a breeder, or someone else? I am asking because I was wondering how you would be able to akc register him without a pedigree?

    Are you asking if you have to neuter him due to a law or ordinance, or as a requirement of where you're getting him from?


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  19. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    It's hard enough to adopt a dog without adding in additional requirements.
     
  20. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    Yeah, which is why I understand it... but still don't like it.

    I mean, keeping an intact dog isn't exactly rocket science. There are still many places in the world where S/N isn't the norm, yet they don't have overpopulation problems like in North America. Countries in Europe, for example. What's the difference? Laziness? Lack of education?
     

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