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Lurker posting up pics of my new guy

Discussion in 'Bull Terrier' started by bullyGuy1987, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. bullyGuy1987

    bullyGuy1987 Puppy

    Oh yes his nose has not filled in yet. I hope it doesn't. Is that a common bull terrier trait?

    Also he is getting his new teeth any helpful tips?

    Any bone recommendations? His diet now is science diet puppy ideal balance

    Lastly he has grass allergies, vet has him on 3 Benadryl a day any other tips to keep him comfortable? It's not bad now but just wondered wat u all do for urs


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  2. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    i used to feed that food too, i liked it a lot. i think most bullies get itchy from the grass, little bumps, whats the severity of the grass allergy? the nose will mostly likely fill in, im pretty sure it will. Nylabones work great, the strong white ones for powerful chewers, dont get anything your own teeth can put a mark in, if we can dent it, they can destroy it. My dogs LOVE deer antlers, one of the best chews now days, i love them, pricey but worth it!! That much benadryl must be making his drowsy, i personally wouldnt give that much to my dog, i only give it when i have to and not for more than a couple days.
     
  3. tombo671

    tombo671 Puppy

    Beautiful! i love the look of the puppies, so cute. All my bullies have been at least toddlers. Never experienced a newborn :(
     
  4. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I think if you have to do such a high dose of medication when it's not "too bad" (especially in a puppy), I think it might be time to search for the causes of the allergies and not just cover up the symptoms.

    I have been struggling, as many other people on the board, with allergies in my bully too. My biggest recommendation is to stop feeding that science diet crap and try something else. For me, raw feeding was a life saver. Sonya no longer has the same problems. She is still allergic to the world, but I no longer go through bottles and bottles of hydroxinzine (much stronger than benedryl). Take a look at this type of feeding, it will most likely help your dog! (By the way, I'm not saying that your dog is allergic to food, but feeding a species-appropriate diet boosts the immune system, making the dog healthier overall).

    I really like this forum, they are a great group of people and they are good at answering all kinds of questions: Raw Feeding

    Good luck with your bully, and keep posting pictures!
     
  5. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    By the way, feeding raw meaty bones as part of the diet will help with the teething and also help keep the pup away from you so you can get about 15 min of your life back :o
     
  6. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    Hes not feeding average science diet, hes feeding the ideal balance, and the ideal balance also has a grain free formula, this food is very good, it cured a dog I had that suffered most of his life from chronic diarrhea with an immediate switch of the food. The allergies may not be related to the food at all, so if its not, no point to switch, RAW is a wonderful diet, but its not as easy as everyone makes it out to be, not only that, but finding a place to buy cheap bones and meat, is not easy for everyone, I live in Las Vegas, and you can get RAW from pet stores in there freezers and they charge triple than what it costs to buy dog food. Two of my dogs were having horrible seasonal allergies this year, im still battling it with my youngest white boy, there getting hives and ive increased the omegas in the food, doesn't seem to be doing anything, my puppy who eats just normal dog food has it, my friends dog who eats grain free and raw has it, and another brindle female who eats Avoderm has it, not food related, it's environmental. Adding omegas like salmon oil might help, if the OP doesnt want to feed fully raw, you can try supplementing with raw, feed your kibble and add some RAW meat to his diet.
     
  7. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    You know what's funny about Science Diet? They've been preaching that micronutrients are more important than macronutrients and that is why we shouldn't be concerned with corn, grains, etc. in dog food. And now that people have started buying grain-free more, guess who all of a sudden abandons that idea and starts advertizing "no corn" as a good thing?

    When I say "raw" I don't mean premade raw (like what you would buy in the pet store). I only mean "prey model raw". Sorry if I wasn't specific.

    Also, you won't be able to convince me that it is difficult to find raw meat in any area. I buy only grocery meat and end up spending $1-3/ lb ($1.5/lbs on average). The science diet is about $2.50/lb.

    I'm not trying to convince anyone to feed anything. I am suggesting Prey Model Raw because it was a life saver for my dog (and it makes logical sense).
     
  8. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    raw is AMAZING! and yes, it does depend on the area you live for how much you pay for raw food 9prey model raw)
    i personally spend MAYBE 10 bucks a month for 2 dogs (no i didnt mispell that i do mean per MONTH not week, not day but MONTH)
    and raw really is very simple
    i measured the food once and have been eye balling it ever since, if it looks like a good amount, thats what they get, some days i toss in alot of bone, other days i toss in a lot of organs, some days all they get is raw eggs anda bit of liver, some days all they get is some beef tendon and Cesar is healthy as could be.

    like i have said to other newbs, you really DO get alot of wiggle room when you feed a prey model raw diet, its OK if you dont feed heart for a month, its OK if your dog only gets to have turkey for 6 weeks straight before you can pick up somthing else, its OK if you can only afford grocery store meat, its OK if the meat is freezer burnt or has been left in the bottom of the fridge for a few extra days, and its OK if you dont have the meat/bone/organ ratio 100 percent complete at every meal!

    many raw feeders i know get tons of free emat thru craigslist ads from butchers and hunters, i get 99% of my meat free from teh grocery store what they throw away, the stuff thats expired, the trimmings, the parts people wont buy, ect

    i will NEVER go back to kibble i dont care if ill have to learn how to hunt myself!
     
  9. bullyGuy1987

    bullyGuy1987 Puppy

    I feed him some raw but it is just not feasible to do all the times for me. I am fairly sure that it is grass because when he is out all afternoon with us he breaks out more.


    I am unsure why you would call science diet crap. To my knowledge there is no other company that spends anywhere close to what they do on research.

    I'm also fairly sure it isnt food as he was on grain free taste of the wild but then they had the recall, and even though they didn't seem to be affected I know longer trust them and swapped him to science diet.

    The Benadryl doesn't seem to make him drowsy my only concern is about his kidneys, are dogs the same as humans and pills put their little kidneys to extra work?


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  10. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I know you can use hydroxizine long term with not too many side effects. Don't know about Benedryl.

    I know I brought it up, but I don't want to flood your thread with my rants on science diet or really any other commercial kibble.

    I wish you the best of luck with getting the allergies under control. The dog food forum that I recommended has several bull terrier owners who are also struggling with allergies/ yeast/ etc and have good suggestions on how to treat the dogs' with changes in diet and the environment instead of medication.
     
  11. Hucklebutt

    Hucklebutt Banned Back Yard Breeder

    Wish I could spend 20 bucks a month feeding 4 dogs on a raw diet, but that just seems ludicrous to me. Grain free kibble is definitely not cheaper than feeding raw, at my job there are foods that cost 85 dollars a bag! Yes im not joking...that's insanity! I spend 60 dollars a month feeding all my dogs. I highly doubt changing the food would change the allergy, anytime I hear of dogs allergic to grass, chicken and other regular things it just really bums me out, I dont give medication for the dogs allergies, I worry about long term side effects too much, I try not to supplement the dogs immune system too much, just like I don't over vaccinate, when one of my dogs got a nasty sinus infection, i dosed him up with vitamin c, when that didn't work fast enough, he received a couple days of antibiotics and than I stopped it. I dont vaccinate any shots after the puppy vaccines except for rabies, i feel it can cause more problems. I agree RAW diet is the best for dogs, no doubting that fact, but it may not be for every dog or owner. But when I used to supplement with RAW I really had a problem with them chewing it, they seemed to want to wolf it down and not chew, how do you get them to chew it? I had to give it full frozen to make them chew.
     
  12. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    I hope you stopped it because you completed the full regiment for that antibiotic...
     
  13. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Cesar used to swollow bones whole in the begining as well, i froze the meat till he was used to it then i jsut gave it to him not frozen and he chewed because he wasnt excited to scarf it down, but i had also been working with him about being calm while eating too so he learned theres no reason to scarf food.

    you can get cheap meat, talk to family and freinds about tossing out freezer burnt meat, ask them to save it for you, go to grocery stores and ask about getting there throw out stuff, post ads on craigslist and local classifieds for throw away meats from butchers,hunters, ect sure it takes some work in the begining but once you find a few sorces it gets easier and easier.

    i can understand though, it CAN be tough for people who live in bigger cities, and some people get grossed out by it.

    i can also understand NOT wanting your dogs on alot of chemicals and anti-biotics, but you really shouldnt mess around with infections, you can do MORE harm to a dog by NOT finishing an antibiotic then by using them because when you dont do the full dose (normally 7-10 days) your allowing the body to create an immunity to them which is exactly what you DONT want because if your dog ever NEEDS them for a life threatening infection your flat out of luck because youve allowed there bodies to create an immunity to them that is why they will warn against stopping the doses even if the infection seems completly cleared up.

    (trust me, i know everything about infections i was in and out of the hospitol battling an abcess for about 4 years of my life, nearly died)


    @v8psp-it sure makes me sad that people dont understand how big time pet food companys work...
     
  14. aprotopo

    aprotopo Big Dog

    quick correction: it's not the body, it's the bacteria evolving :)
     
  15. xchairity_casex

    xchairity_casex Good Dog

    Oops thanks for that but yeh that! lol
     

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