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Land of Giants

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by matthew101376, Dec 22, 2008.

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  1. woody d

    woody d Big Dog

    i call BS. you are part of the problem just like all bybs. you can talk a mean talk, but in the end, YOU have a website, YOU dont understand the breed, and YOU are why i think the circle needs closed. sittin here tellin us to breed out DA...are you kiddin me? btw, an APBT is a working breed, and if you worked your dogs, maybe they wouldnt be so couch potato fat. golden rule, "never buy a dog from a breeder that doesnt do a thing with their dogs but breed em"
     
  2. woody d

    woody d Big Dog

    exactly!:rolleyes:
     
  3. Diesels Mommy

    Diesels Mommy Little Dog

    Just for those who wanted to know what these dogs look like, this is supposedly a LoG dog....

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDZcnBqzF0"]YouTube - flex my dog[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Hs3Pj75t8&feature=channel"]YouTube - I have an itch Mom!.wmv[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uzwLMMZSjg&feature=channel"]YouTube - after math after ice storm[/ame]
     
  4. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    Oh geez. I was being completely sarcastic.

    The last thing I want is our crappy government once again sticking their greedy little fingers where they don't belong.

    It's not about money. Or at least it shouldn't be.

    Just because one has a license to pump out 80+ lb "pit bulls", that not only are not even close to the physical standard but aren't even close to the mental standard (yes, I mean a lot of those dogs have downright shitty temperaments), it doesn't mean they are doing anything right.

    The government already thinks "pit bulls" are a breed and that any dog weighing between 30 and 130 lbs with short fur and a "muscular" build is a "pit bull". The last thing we need is actual reinforcement of that belief.

    I've said it numerous times before and I'll say it again. I will fight for the REAL APBT every single day of my life here on this earth. However, I would much rather see the APBT become extinct that see it turned into a piece of trash dog that barely resembles the APBT of yesterday and acts absolutely nothing like it.

    Those who breed such dogs do not do it for the love of dogs. They do it for the money and they do it for their own egos. The ride the name of the APBT because it sounds "cool" and brings them "respect". Not to mention it's a great marketing feature.

    And pumping out litter after litter and selling them to just anyone with the right amount of cash is the reason we are in this situation of B.S.L. in the first place. So explain how your train of thought to continue along with these same actions is going to fix anything. All it's going to do is cause these dogs to be killed and the owners ostrasized from society.

    So keep on with your game and I'll keep on with mine. But unlike those out-of-standard and mostly paper-hung mutts that "bully" breeders are putting out, I don't quit.
     
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  5. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    WTF kind of dog is that in that first video? It looks like some poorly bred Mastiff mix. And I'm still laughing at the thought of a dog chewing on some teeny little branches being considered "hard core".
     
  6. XXX

    XXX Good Dog

    I'd like to take the chance an point you to the American Bully section we have here... I think you and your dogs would fit in better in there.....

    Also... just because a dog has "Colby" in their pedigree in the 7th generation or farther back... doesn't make it a "colby" dog..... like wise with Redboy or any other popular bloodline name you want to toss around.
     
  7. Miakoda

    Miakoda GRCH Dog

    My OEB has some APBTs waaaay back in his ped, too. Doesn't make him an APBT. :cool:
     
  8. Diesels Mommy

    Diesels Mommy Little Dog


    My thought was mastiff mix as well, I don't know what they are mixing these dogs with but it's absolutely ridiculous...There is nothing APBT about it.
     
  9. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    I was kind of thinking Mastiff/boxer.
     
  10. CoolHandJean

    CoolHandJean Krypto Super Dog

    Good post, Mia.
     
  11. celtdog

    celtdog Puppy

    I have owned several APBT's bred by by private (backyard if you will) breeders and they were terrific dogs. My first was from a man that my father knew at the union he belonged to and he had the utmost respect and love for the breed. Matter of fact several of his dogs were rescued from bad conditions by him. He refused to sell to the IDIOTS that misuse the breed or to people he did not think were able to handle them either. So to label all backyard breeders as BAD is just WRONG. As far the Land of the Giants Kennel, I have seen their web site and met some of their dogs in person and they seemed to be pure bred and bueatiful. They are not what I think an APBT should look like but thats just me. As long as they are healthy and stabile both physically and mentally thats all that should matter. It seems to me there are a lot of APBT owners now that look down their noses at some breeders or even owners just because they fit "their" idea of what they should be.
     
  12. milew66623

    milew66623 Big Dog

    He bred resue dogs?
     
  13. celtdog

    celtdog Puppy

    I think most of what you are talking about with some breeders just hanging a tag of APBT on their dogs is just for the money. They don't care about the bred just the wannabe's who are dumb enough to pay the outrageous prices they ask. But one thing I don't agree with is part about the size and an ill tempered dog necessarily being bred badly. I categorize pits into two basic types 1. the spade head type 35- 60 lbs. 2. the block head type 65- 85 lbs. Even in the books I have read; mostly by Richard F. Stratton; APBT's don't really come in a one size fits all box. All of my pits have been 70 - 85 lbs. and they were legit papers with excellent lineage. One of them went back to Killens Cid (a great hog dog) and Miss Jeans Cochise.
    If you want to talk about something that I think is good for the breed it's the explosion of all these Blue Pits. The blue is a mutated color and has health issue possibilites. Pits are supposed to be a very robust, sturdy, durable breed that has very few health problems both inheirent and other wise. I believe if the "blues" are bred like they have been it will be the down fall of the breed. Just it waas with the Rotti, Dobi, St. Bernard and so many others.
     
  14. rob h

    rob h Little Dog

    i have been involver in the dog's for for as long as some of you have been around. i have owned all sizes and color's i have personnaly never bred a big apbt. i have owned such dog. that was said to be a apbt but let's face it do you honetly have a true pit bull on you're yard do you even know what they even looked like. it's not the show dog's you or i in the Past show they are what all the year's in the last year's has given us. i do believe that there has been other breeds bred into what we call now the apbt to get the big 70+ dog's but where does the blame lie not with you or i we can not blame what happened 25+ year's ago on the breeder's of today. the registries we have now who back at this time all this took place is the cause for what we have walking around. they registered those dog's as apbt's and still do but yet they don't want the most weight pull trophy they want the money for the litter though so as long as the litter's are registered as apbt's there will alway's be this issue ,
     
  15. celtdog

    celtdog Puppy

    He had several dogs in which he took them or bought from their owners that were abusing them. A couple were dogs he had sold and when he found out what the situations were he just took them back. And Harry could be very persuasive that way.
     
  16. Jaco

    Jaco Puppy

    I came across Land Of Giants Kennels in a Field and Stream magazine about 13 years ago. I can tell you that they are NOT American Bully type dogs. I can't say that they are pure. My believe is that they are. They are extremely agile, athletic, and more bull dog than most. I bought a video from his dad. His dogs are working dogs. Before you jump to an opinion, investigate. I prefer dogs around 40/ 45 lbs. However, Land of Giants is the only big dogs I've seen that can move like Pit Bulls. Also, a few dogs on their video were highly obedience trained as well...
     
  17. ganja

    ganja Good Dog

    a responsible owner will be able to manage his dogs, to controle them.
    if you can't handle a DA breed, find another breed.

    I'm getting sick of people wanting to get DA out of those dogs.
    sick of people wanting to change MY breed of choice so it will fit THEM better. :mad:
    find a breed with a temperament that suits you and stop buying a dog for his looks.

    when people say that they want to breed DA out, I just hear one thing:
    "I'm to lazy to train my dog to behave nicely around other dogs, so lets breed the DA out of the breed so I won't have to do all that training!"
    (I'm not saying DA can be trained out!)

    don't like DA? fine, stick to your amstaffs and bully's, or find another breed that suits you better so you can stop messing around with other people's breed of choice.
     
  18. diesel29154

    diesel29154 Puppy

    I purchased a pitbull from ken owner of land of the giants back in the late 80's great line of dogs. I think it was the colby blood line,these dogs are huge. I can say ken stand behind his dogs. I would like to get another one for my kids.
     
  19. XXX

    XXX Good Dog

    Oh yeah... you hear so much about those "HUGE" dogs the Colbys produce.....lol
     
  20. IronChef

    IronChef Big Dog

    I often judge kennels not only by what information they make public on the internet (Or in LOG's case, Dog Fancy magazine), but who chooses to acquire dogs from them. And the only folks who are intentionally seeking out 100+ pound "American pit bull terriers" are folks who have no business owning... American pit bull terriers.
     
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