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Know hes a mutt but can anyone tell me from what?

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by joeplopez, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. joeplopez

    joeplopez Puppy

    So my dad got this dog from his friend who said he couldnt have him anymore He told my dad the vet said he was alaskan bred or somthing And my dad asked his vet that spades his dogs and they said he looks like a foreign army dog or somthing like...that
    He even came with a wierd command when my dads friend got him To make him sit from wherever he is in the yard all you have to do is point your index finger directly at him at him and he sits haha!

    Anyways he def looks like a german shepered mix possibly but hes short and stocky Black grey and off white colored
    I know in the pics his eyes look brown but in person they are amazingly yellow haha

    Anyone got a guess on what he could be or mixed with?

    This is Mason

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  2. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    :ummm:
     
  3. Cherylynn

    Cherylynn Puppy

    What a beautiful dog! He looks like a wolf-hybrid, especially his eyes. A friend has 2 Wolfies and they look a lot like this.
     
  4. Gatorpit

    Gatorpit Good Dog

    By "foriegn army dog" I assume they meant one of the variety of shepherd breeds that most Americams are unnaware of...of which there are MANY.

    I don't see anything that marks him as a wolf hybrid. He could be a mix of literally dozens of different breeds with "shepherd-like" attributes.

    Sarloos wolfhound, East Siberian Laika, Lapinporokoira, Swedish Elkhound, Shikoku, Czech Wolfdog, Swedish Vallhund, etc, etc.

    Google some of those.
     
  5. MJJean

    MJJean GRCH Dog

    Working dogs from Alaska, from what I understand, are seriously mutts. Heinze 57 types. Those guys don't care what the breed of dog is as long as it can do its job and live in the harsh environment, so they breed what dog can work with what other dog can work. So, maybe "Alaskan bred" means this guy doesn't know since there could be any and every thing mixed in.
     
  6. Gatorpit

    Gatorpit Good Dog

    Exactly.

    I meant to make a note on my last post that those breeds listed were just examples of some of the breeds that have "shepherd like" physical attributes that most folks don't even know exist. I Wasn't implying the OP's dog was any of those breeds. I mean, sure...it's technically possible, but so unlikely as to be extremely improbable.
     
  7. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Kinda looks like a German Shepherd/Norwegian Elkhound....cool-looking dog
     
  8. PitMomma24

    PitMomma24 Little Dog

    I see this rather differently. I believe that many of the working Alaskan breeds, such as the huskies used for the iditarod race are pure breds; the only difference being that they are a working breed, as opposed to their counter part that we're used to seeing in the show ring.
    You would never see a sled racer using a show bred Husky for any type of work, so the dogs they use look like mutts but in reality have just been performance bred dogs, rather than point and conformation bred dogs.
    This is the AKC registered Siberian Husky we are so used to seeing: [​IMG]
    And this is a performance bred Alaskan Husky, the name has been changed to differentiate the two types - this dog is from Susan Butcher's yard, who won the iditarod race four times: [​IMG]

    There are many breeds which have been divided into performance and show ring types, for example the English Setter, German Shepard, and the most obvious one the bulldog!
     
  9. Pink

    Pink GRCH Dog

    I definitely see shepherd of some kind.. Whatever the mix, he's cute.
     
  10. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    .

    Nope,they're mutts.
     
  11. PitMomma24

    PitMomma24 Little Dog

    Ignorance.
    Would you say that all performance bred dogs are mutts then? And why does it seem that these "mutts" majority of the time are healthier than their show bred counter parts? When a dog is being bred to a standard of perfection created by people, they begin to destroy the breed.
    Similar to when show fanciers back in the late 1800s decided to create a standard for perfection on what they believed the real bull baiting dog should look like, which is how they came up with the function less AKC registered bulldog. Does this mean that the original bulldog, APBT, is a mutt then? Not by any means, in my opinion, a dog that is conformation bred and is useless, such as these Siberian Huskies are more mutts than the actual working breeds - Alaskan Huksy.
    The day you go out and win a title with a registered show dog in any working competition they were intended to be used for, and HAVE proof of it, is the day I'll say working breeds are mutts.
    Take a AKC registered bull dog out and put him on a bull or hog, let me know how that works. Take a show ring Siberian Huksy out and have it win the Iditarod race and see how that works out, and how the racers beside you on the starting line laugh at you and your fancy, pretty dogs who aren't worth anything out in that race.
    Anyone who's in the slightest bit familiar with real working dogs would know that there's a huge difference between the dogs registered by the same name with the AKC and performance bred dogs.
     
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  12. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    No,most sled dogs are mutts. You might want to learn what you're talking about before you start calling people ignorant.

    ---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:40 PM ----------

    Yes.
     
  13. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

    I see norwegian elkhound, mixed with a shorter coated breed.. Maybe some other things.
    Just a guess, he could be anything.
     
  14. PitMomma24

    PitMomma24 Little Dog

    Please do explain then how the sled dogs are mutts? And how is the original bull dog a mutt? I'd like to know your reasoning behind it, because as far as I know, neither are mutts.
     
  15. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    Because they are not a registered breed of fucking dog,that's how. And yes,the first pit dogs were mixture of bulldogs and terriers,making them mutts.
     
  16. PitMomma24

    PitMomma24 Little Dog

    Actually the original bull dog can be traced back further than being just pit dogs, and no, they're not mutts they're direct descendants from the bullenbeisser (bull-biter) and because of this is why they became the butcher's dog, which helped butchers control their cattle, then the sport of bull baiting was created. The APBT, originally known as a bulldog before the UKC was started, is the only direct descendant from the bullenbeisser.
    The modern day AKC registered Bulldog is a mordern day breed which has NEVER been capable of work with his useless bowed out legs, turned out feet, too large a chest, and smothered nose.
    Also, the pitbull has really a very minute amount of terrier blood in him which was only due in part to dog fighters who wanted smaller dogs, and mixed terrier blood in with the pitbull. The only true bulldog and terrier mixture is the Bull Terrier. And if you didn't know, registries tend to change the name of breeds and so people who do not know the actual history of a breed can be confused with the names, such as American Pitbull Terrier, which to say the very least we all know these bulldogs are neither American nor Terrier, Bennet had a bad habit of adding on American to the front of any breed registered in with the UKC.
    Oh, and if pinscher means terrier in German, does that mean that the Doberman Pinscher is a terrier? No, right, so neither is the pitbull.

    And just for the record, true dog fanciers, the ones who actually cater to the breed and want it to remain unchanged, and true as it was handed down to us would rather their dogs not be registered, because that is the demise of most dog breeds, as the "standard of perfection" for a dog can change with each generation. Such as the Bull Terrier, who has just recently developed an odd egg shaped headed which he did not have when the breed was created, and the Boxer especially which were also used as pit dogs, but due to the show ring he now has a functionless jaw and is being used less and less by police forces and for working jobs.
     
  17. chloesredboy2

    chloesredboy2 Good Dog

    You're full of shit.
     
  18. PitMomma24

    PitMomma24 Little Dog

    If that's how you want to take it, be my guest, but the truth is the truth. Look back at old pictures of the breeds I've pointed out and tell me if you can't see how these now registered "purebreds" are now nothing but useless pretty things.
    Hell I read an old postcard the other day with two Boxers and they look very similar to the modern day pitbull - nothing like the show ring dog from today.
     
  19. Gatorpit

    Gatorpit Good Dog

    sorry pitmomma, but you are wrong. On both counts. The "original bulldogs" that spawned the APBT were NOT a breed. Back then, people named dogs after the job they did. A bulldog was any dog that was used to work bulls. And most Alaskan working dogs are mixed. Some people DO use purebred dogs, but people who need dogs strictly to work use dogs that are good at the work, regardless of lineage.
     
  20. FransterDoo

    FransterDoo Big Dog

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